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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>From the Wiki <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>“</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The two letter abbreviation for the state per the United States Postal Service's <a href="https://www.usps.com/send/official-abbreviations.htm"><span style='color:#663366;text-decoration:none'>state abbreviation list</span></a>, another abbreviation used by the state (such as SR for State Road), or no prefix. Different states may have different standards for which to use, and there is no current inter-state standard.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I take the “Different states may have different standards for which to use” to mean that not all states use the two letter abbreviation and in states that don’t we should use that states standard for example Michigan uses M. The highway behind my house is M-15 and singed that way so I would think it should be tagged that way. Am I reading the Wiki wrong?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:1.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dave</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Paul Johnson [mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> Shawn K. Quinn<br><b>Cc:</b> OpenStreetMap talk-us list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Shawn K. Quinn <<a href="mailto:skquinn@rushpost.com" target="_blank">skquinn@rushpost.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>So, a couple of questions:<br><br>1. What, exactly, is fair game to change to a state abbreviation<br>reference?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fair game nationwide, two letter state abbreviations should be used for the primary state highway network.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>2. Which states spell out the name in the ref?<br>I know Kansas uses K-123, and Michigan uses M-123. Are there any others<br>to be careful of?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kansas should be KS 123, Michigan should be MI 123.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ultimately, though, both should be part of route relations that describe the route so we can quit adding ref=* to the incorrect entity (it's not the way's ref, it's the route's!).<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>