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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Duane/Harald,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At Telenav we have been ‘signposting’ (adding destination tagging) for the last 6+ months. Using Martijn’s post as a template, we have used the exact syntax
Harald shows in the example. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am reading with great interest the post at:
<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info</a>. Bifurcations with multiple exit numbers are complex (see US Examples: A/B Split Example). Adding the junction:ref on the WAY has merit. I am still digesting
the method and looking for other examples. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chris Zontine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Duane Gearhart [mailto:duane@mapzen.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harald Kliems<br>
<b>Cc:</b> talk-us@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] Destination tagging<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Harald,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I would like the community to improve the tagging of exit sign information in the US. I created a wiki page that has some of the proposed
improvements for the categorization of the exit sign information. </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155CC">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Tagging the exit sign information as suggested will improve the route narrative at these highway transition points</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Martijn van Exel has also be advocating for better US exit sign tagging:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/22419"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1155CC">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/22419</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">My suggestion for the off ramp would be:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">destination:ref=I 39 South;I 90 East</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">destination=Janesville;Chicago</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Duane</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Harald Kliems <<a href="mailto:kliems@gmail.com" target="_blank">kliems@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recently captured Mapillary imagery along I-90W between Madison and Wisconsin Dells with the aim of adding destination tags to exits. The example section of the documentation in the wiki [1] only has German signs, which is not that useful.
I'm wondering how people handle the highway destinations commonly found on signs. For a somewhat complex example, take this sign: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://mapillary.com/map/im/lE5ZLUjfn-gTLB51nnh9fg" target="_blank">http://mapillary.com/map/im/lE5ZLUjfn-gTLB51nnh9fg</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Not that for some reason the Mapillary has an offset for the location of the images; the actual location of the sign is about here: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=43.10188&mlon=-89.28977#map=18/43.10188/-89.28977" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=43.10188&mlon=-89.28977#map=18/43.10188/-89.28977</a> )<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So for the left part of the highway I tagged <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">destination:lanes=I 39 North;I 90 West; I 94 West;Wisconsin Dells|I 94 East;Milwaukee<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the off-ramp: destination=I 39 South;I 90 East;Janesville;Chicago<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- the wiki page seems to imply that the various interstate references shouldn't go into the destination tag. That seems wrong to me, as I'd expect a router to include them ("Take the exit towards I 39 South, ...") and don't see where else
they would reasonably go. The wiki (first example) says "Additionally it is possible to set ref=A 2 on the highway=motorway." -- not sure what that means.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The ever-recurring abbreviation question: Do I write out "Interstate" or not? Abbreviate north/south...? I have the suspicion in some cases that would lead to exceeding the 255 char limit. If using an abbreviation, we don't use a dash
between I and the number, and a blank between the number and direction, right?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your input. In case there is consensus (one can dream!), I'm happy to update the wiki with some more US-specific examples.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"> Harald.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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