<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Minh Nguyen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us" target="_blank">minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">How does this compare to Seattle? Do its neighborhoods have a similar level of organization? The GNIS place=hamlet POIs in Cincinnati mostly fell into the latter bucket, but we turned some into place=suburb and a few turned out to be historical.</blockquote></div><br>Seattle has very defined neighborhoods and even sub-neighborhoods. The prior discussions kept us from adding the boundaries. Maybe it is time to reconsider. The Mapzen effort to produce a boundaries overlay is a promising solution to the problem, but I haven't heard anything from Mapzen for a while. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Boundaries are often hard to identify, even between cities let alone neighborhoods, yet they are import for many uses. Right now I'm in a city that I can't tell where it begins and the next city to the north ends. There doesn't seem to be a clear demarcation. But if we have access to administrative boundaries, I believe they should be in OSM. (At least until we have a viable alternative.) </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">At its most basic, OSM is a geospatial database. We have countries, states, counties, and cities. Why not neighborhoods. OSM tells where a feature is located. Points can only tell us how close a feature is to a node. Using nodes to represent neighborhoods doesn't allow with any certainty where a feature is located while a polygon can. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">We are a slightly off topic, but place=hamlet has the same issue. The problem is that not all place=hamlet have defined borders. For example, "Edison Station" is a hamlet that is known by some locals, but there is no defined boundary. At best it has very small radius, yet as a node, it might cast a wider territory. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Clifford<br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>@osm_seattle<br></div><div><a href="http://osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us</a></div><div>OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch</div></div></div>
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