<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Charles Samuels <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm@charles.derkarl.org" target="_blank">osm@charles.derkarl.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Monday, April 13, 2015 03:35:20 PM Bryce Nesbitt wrote:<br>
> Having done a few "up to dating" scripts:<br>
><br>
> I recommend looking for nearby amenity=charging_station, not name=<br>
> Supercharger.<br>
> In fact you may want to make this even more "fuzzy", checking for either<br>
> tag. And<br>
</span>That might conflict with a nearby non-Tesla charger.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> use name:Supercharger not name=Supercharger.<br>
</span>What's the difference? I already use a case-insensitive substring search for<br>
<span class="">supercharger.<br>
<br>
><br>
> OSM mappers will often change things like a name tag. While it is possibly<br>
> nobody will ever mess<br>
> with the data you left in OSM, but chances are periodically someone will<br>
> hand edit the nodes<br>
> you left.<br></span><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Here's a supercharger with all the bells and whistles mapped out[1].</div><div>* The charging problem is all about current. The big old transformer that supports a Tesla DC station was added to the north of the screen wall.</div><div>* The original node form Tesla was in the walled area.</div><div>* I use a single node for all the chargers that I have mapped including Tesla. If a charging site has limited amps going to the vehicle, then the J connector style can require a long time for a partial charge. Hence, this is not like a gas station where a single node is good enough. For example, an EV charger may be tied up for four hours in low amp settings. Tesla is changing the game with a 10 minute charge time.</div><div>* The real address on the site is 444 South Watson Road[2]. The addressing authority did not send the address to the USPS so you will not find 444 as a valid USPS address via address correcting software. 444 is a valid Buckeye AZ address for emergency calls or for the utility company. If the address was submitted to USPS, then you'd receive a code saying that 444 was a valid address along with additional information saying that the USPS will not deliver mail to that site. 444 is on the south side of the walled area.</div><div>* The 416 address is for the Carl's Jr. I have not added that photo to the OSM wiki yet. I am not sure if it would help. Perhaps Carl's Jr. is the operator/sponsor of the charger? If so, then that would be a savvy business move. Sponsoring the Tesla charger may help Carl's Jr. compete with the truck stops to the west of the location. USPS would deliver mail to the 416 address.</div><div>* I put the Buckeye Supercharger name on the industrial landuse that I added to cover the switching cabinets. All the addresses and names would help someone find the location. Nominatim has already picked up the information.</div><div>* I used Key Pad Mapper 2 to record all the reference numbers on each terminal. It looks like there is significance to the As and Bs in use[3].</div><div>* I used an idea that I picked up from Bryce on his Duro repair stations. I changed the original source tag to website. I added source as survey. Let's say that you program sets the source tag to auto or the program's name. If a mapper takes the time add the detail, then your program could use the survey tag as an indicator to discontinue the updates to the tags.</div><div>* Feel free to hack and whack on the nodes that I created. It won't hurt my feelers and I won't stop mapping if you do. The wiki page is a mess right now[4]. I have found that it is a confusing topic to get straight as I am not an EV vehicle driver. I think there needs to be a US or North America section of the page that has a focus on what is used here. You all can hack and whack on the wiki page too. </div><div>* One of the problems is that in a pinch, a regular RV socket can be used to charge the vehicles. That may mean that RV and EV tags could merge some day.</div><div>* I'd encourage you to continue your efforts. Once you have the Tesla stations done, then you can try your hand at all the other chargers. I added a great deal of detail for a couple of SemaConnect Network chargers. I personally wouldn't do that in the future. Having an assisted editing system like what your are trying to develop would be a great help to enhance limited data that a mapper might include. All the other chargers require some sort of membership to a network unless the government is pushing a free one[5]. Such a deal! Spend $30K + on an EV and get free parking at a basketball or baseball game. ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>HTH,</div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30205831">http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30205831</a><br></div><div>[2] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Cs_us_tesla_buckeye_charger.png">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Cs_us_tesla_buckeye_charger.png</a></div><div>[3] <a href="http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/42481-How-does-a-Supercharger-work">http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/42481-How-does-a-Supercharger-work</a><br></div><div>[4] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station</a><br></div><div>[5] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3184125857">http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3184125857</a></div></div></div></div>