<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 27, 2015, at 6:41 PM, David Wisbey <<a href="mailto:yourvillagemaps@yahoo.com" class="">yourvillagemaps@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, 'Helvetica Neue Light', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4251" class=""><span class=""></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4236" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4974" class=""> This issue reminds me of something I saw a lot of recently on OSM</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4657" dir="ltr" class="">in Fort Collins, Colorado. I get the impression that the mapper who</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4653" dir="ltr" class="">did this editing did it as a way to avoid the problem(s) mentioned</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4658" dir="ltr" class="">regarding routing. When I first saw this "peculiar" way of mapping</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4652" dir="ltr" class="">traffic signals, I didn't speak up. I'm glad this finally got me to do so.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4659" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4660" dir="ltr" class="">Instead of placing the traffic_signals key at the intersection nodes of</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4663" dir="ltr" class="">a dual carriageway (divided highway) intersection with signals, this</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4975" dir="ltr" class="">mapper created "redundant" nodes on the ways (one-ways) prior to</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4976" dir="ltr" class="">the intersections (and prior to pedestrian crossings, of course) at</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4977" dir="ltr" class="">the point where vehicles (by law) must stop for a red signal.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4978" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_4981" class="">Here is just one example of many in Fort Collins:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_5136" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_5145" class=""><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1438046528941_5146" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/40.55255/-105.07708" class="">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/40.55255/-105.07708</a></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">David</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Not really odd at all, and I’ve mapped plenty that way. Why? Because I was following the wiki: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_signals#Tag_all_incoming_ways" class="">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_signals#Tag_all_incoming_ways</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And from my software/engineering background it makes sense.</div></div></body></html>