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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/09/2015 22:59, Elliott Plack
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<div dir="ltr">Hans: I saw they had been blocked but it expired: <a
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href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Police%20Department%20Of%20New%20York%20City%20Of%20New%20York/blocks"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Police%20Department%20Of%20New%20York%20City%20Of%20New%20York/blocks">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Police%20Department%20Of%20New%20York%20City%20Of%20New%20York/blocks</a></a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 1:40 PM Hans De Kryger
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<p dir="ltr">Did his new account get blocked too?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 15, 2015 12:22 PM, "Elliott
Plack" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr">This changeset has the exact same extent of
the earlier ones from the BmoreHomicide user. Seems like
they made a new account. Watch that one for any
additional changesets.<br>
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It's always a balance between blocking for a short time (after which
a vandal might return with the same account) and blocking a long
time into the future (which might just cause them to create a
sock-puppet account that would be more difficult to detect).
Ultimately we just have to ensure that we don't get bored dealing
with problems until after the vandal gets bored creating them.<br>
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I mention this now because someone yesterday tried to recreate the
World Trade Center as it was pre-2001:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34271693">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34271693</a><br>
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I reverted and blocked the user again after seeing comments on the
changeset discussions via
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions">http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions</a> . The user in this
case had already been creating fantasy / historical maps in the UK
and elsewhere and (after trying to get them via other means to not
do it) had been blocked previously.<br>
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It's possible that this particular user might return with a
different user name, and detecting that they have done so will need
mappers local to or familiar with an area to spot the problem and
flag it up. <br>
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The majority of new users aren't vandals, and most "problematic
changesets" aren't caused by vandals either, but by enthusiastic new
users for whom something goes wrong in the editor, or well-meaning
more experienced users trying to "search/replace the world" who
don't really understand the nuances of the tags they're changing
(actually changing meaning rather than just mispellings etc.), which
means that any comments in the first instance need to "assume good
faith", even when something went badly wrong with the edit.<br>
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One of the easiest ways to keep track of new users is probably<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/newestosm.php?c=United%20States#2/43.6/-110.0">http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/newestosm.php?c=United%20States#2/43.6/-110.0</a><br>
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(zoom in on a map to see new users in the last 7 days in an area)
and for new edits in an area an RSS feed from one of the
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance#WhoDidIt">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance#WhoDidIt</a>
instances.<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
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Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse)<br>
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