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<div dir="ltr">We can unfortunately add two more changesets where Matt1993 has done this in the last 24h. [10] [11]<br><br>I've sent him a PM about this to come and join us on [talk-us] to talk about it, but I bet he's going to 'ignore' it after what he wrote to me on a changeset in the last day (he must have just discovered it by luck to be honest). [12] He bashed me as not being 'professional', 'rude' & to send him a message (I did, it's called the chanageset comment...). I waited 6+ days (others might have only waited 12h or less) before I attempted to fix any damage he's done waiting for a response on the changeset (and others with him too).... [12] My source for the change was 'common sense/Bing' there because I was repairing the routing for bicycle routes as that's part of a Bike PA route (as mentioned in the comments of [12]) and I looked at the area with Bing (plus I've been there before). When he converted it to a motorway (twice), it broke the bicycle routing in that area. I was repairing the data there and it was a legit changeset comment on my repair (links to changesets in comments of [12]). At least I explain what I'm doing in a changeset and don't use a 'generic' comment on all my changesets. Plus, a 'Single interchange doesn't = motorway...'. If so, we'd have several mini motorways segments along US-19 in West Virginia between I-79 & I-77, where it's a major 'trunk' highway, but has several interchanges sprinkled along it (the only true motorway segments it has is from I-77 to it's first interchange (which is where US-19 leaves/joins Corridor L) and the bypass segment in the Oak Hill area. Anyways, several other users I talked to agreed with me on this fix for [12] (on and off of OSM).<br><br>Anyways David, I don't agree with the 'maxspeed:advisory' tag unless the speed sign is one of the 'yellow' ones. I know the toll plaza on the Ohio Turnpike on I-76 going into/out-of Pennsylvania uses normal speed limit signs. Thus, those areas should be with the normal 'maxspeed' tag. However, I do fully agree with you on the lanes tag. That's how I did it @ the Gateway Toll Plaza on the I-76 PA Turnpike. [13] Could use some more fine tuning using the 'turn:lanes' tag however.<br><br>-James<br><br>[10] - <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34581064" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34581064</a><br>[11] - <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34581478" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34581478</a> <br>[12] - <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33674410" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33674410" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33674410</a><br>[13] - <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/40.90417/-80.49574" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/40.90417/-80.49574</a> <br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: dwalterc@gmail.com<br>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:27:05 -0700<br>To: gdt@ir.bbn.com<br>CC: rickmastfan67@hotmail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org<br>Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Downgrading 'motorways' around toll plazas?<br><br><div dir="ltr">I also don't think it's reasonable to represent every lane of a toll booth as a different way or as trunk. I've also tried to contact this user and received no response. <div><br></div><div>I think a better representation is using the lanes tag and or maxspeed:advisory.<br><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Greg Troxel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gdt@ir.bbn.com" target="_blank">gdt@ir.bbn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;"><span><br>
James Mast <<a href="mailto:rickmastfan67@hotmail.com">rickmastfan67@hotmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
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> Does anybody think it is a good idea to downgrade 'motorways' around<br>
> toll plazas to 'trunk' highways? I just noticed a user did this in<br>
> mass in NY and MA along I-90/I-87. [1] [2] He's even done this in PA a<br>
> few times. [3]<br>
<br>
</span>No, this is not reasonable. While one might object philosophically to a<br>
tollbooth on an Interstate highway, that's the way the world is, and<br>
noting it as a tollbooth is adequate.<br>
<span><br>
> I've also noticed several problematic changesets this user has done in<br>
> the past. I've left several comments on some of his changesets [4]<br>
> [5] and he's never responded to them except once, and that was after<br>
> sending him a few PM's (1 per month) till he finally responded only<br>
> partially to my question in it. [6] That leads me to believe that he's<br>
> either completely ignoring the e-mails, or he's not even getting them.<br>
> Also, in that one comment that he did leave (in [6]), he pretty much<br>
> completely ignored my question (if he had been there and saw shields<br>
> for this 'new' route since I don't want to delete 'valid' data) and<br>
> said that he works '12 hour days'. Honestly, if he can still find<br>
> time to do big OSM edits and work for 12 hours a day, can't he spare a<br>
> minute or two to respond to a comment left for him instead of taking 2<br>
> months to reply? I mean, even if I was busy and somebody left a<br>
> comment on a changeset I did, I would try to make a few minutes to<br>
> respond back within a day or two (week tops) of the comment. This is<br>
> a community project and everybody needs to work together and not<br>
> ignore each other.<br>
<br>
</span>I agree that we should have higher expectations of people working within<br>
the project vs just editing by themselves.<br>
<span><br>
> Another problem with this user is that he almost always keeps using<br>
> the same changeset comment of "using bing imagery to update map" which<br>
> is completely useless to tell what he's really doing in each<br>
> changeset.<br>
<br>
</span>I also agree that we should have higher expectations of both<br>
geographically smaller changesets (except in limited cases where they<br>
are clearly completely uncontroversial) and more descriptive comments.<br>
Unfortunately it seems that making edits without being willing to engage<br>
with others and non-useful changeset comments are correlated.<br>
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