<div dir="ltr">Maning,<div>People should checkout <a href="https://www.mapbox.com/osm-sidewalker/">https://www.mapbox.com/osm-sidewalker/</a> to error checking their locality. This is a nice sidewalk checker.</div><div><br></div><div>One comment. I have a named footway, Kulshan Trail, that run east-west through the middle of my city. While it occasionally is adjacent or near a name highway, it shouldn't be associated with that way. It's name should suffice for routing. Another example would be the Burke Gillman Trail in Seattle. Everyone knows exactly what you are talking about. If I mention the sidewalk adjacent to North North Lake Way, they'll look at me like I don't know what I'm talking about. </div><div><br></div><div><font color="#000000">For example osm-sidewalker wants to tag <span style="font-family:Menlo,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono',Monaco,Consolas,monospace;line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0.0235294)">"_osm_way_id": 222923323 </span><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap">"proposed:footway": "sidewalk",
"proposed:associatedStreet": "Kulshan Avenue" </span></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap">Does a named footpath need to be associated with a street? Shouldn't the name be sufficient for routing? </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap">I am getting to work with a nearby city to help them map their sidewalks. I'm a strong proponent of using the sidewalk=both/right/left tag on the road. (Although there are instances that footways have to be added in manually.) It is easy to do in JOSM. Not so much in iD. I'd rather not start off trying to teach people how to install JAVA and JOSM on Windows laptops. Anyone have any good suggestions for tools to make it easy map sidewalks? </span></font></div><div><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace" color="#000000"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace" color="#000000"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap">Looking to hear more about your efforts.</span></font></div><div><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace" color="#000000"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace" color="#000000"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap">Clifford</span></font></div><div><font face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace" color="#000000"><span style="line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.749019607843137)" face="Menlo, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Monaco, Consolas, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:19 AM, maning sambale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com" target="_blank">emmanuel.sambale@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
We are working on improving tags for sidewalk in the US. Details in<br>
this issue [0].<br>
The sidewalk detection algorithm runs OK in most cases but fails in<br>
some [1]. Mostly the contention was whether a footway separated by a<br>
grassy area from the road is considered a sidewalk which was already<br>
discussed in this list [2].<br>
<br>
The wiki defines sidewalk as "often separated from the carriageway (or<br>
roadway) by a kerb (also curb)". [3]<br>
<br>
As in most cases in OSM, we would like to defer to the local (US)<br>
community on how they define it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
[0] <a href="https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/125" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/125</a><br>
[1] <a href="https://www.mapbox.com/bites/00186/#" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mapbox.com/bites/00186/#</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2014-April/012984.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2014-April/012984.html</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks</a><br>
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cheers,<br>
maning<br>
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