<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Paul Fox <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us" target="_blank">pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">paul johnson wrote:<br>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Paul Fox <<a href="mailto:pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us">pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > russ wrote:<br>
> > > Paul Johnson writes:<br>
> > > > I was really hoping the latest carto would have included<br>
> > > > relations and graphical shields myself, since that's almost<br>
> > > > a throwaway ticklist item for maps (and particularly online<br>
> > > > maps) the world over these days.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I took the time to create relations for all of my county's routes<br>
> > > because I wanted to see them rendered with graphical shields.<br>
> ><br>
> > thinking about the term "sunset" in the subject: when route relations<br>
> > are created, does that mean the ref= tags go away? seems like there's<br>
> > a need for a transition period in there somewhere.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Obviously there needs to be a sunrise for consumers to catch up, but<br>
> eventually the dinosaur needs to be killed. There's some places where the<br>
> way has a ref unique to the route, as noted on the ground, that currently<br>
> isn't easy to map thanks to the associated tag already being used to<br>
> identify the ref of an entirely different entity (the route relation). I'm<br>
> also suggesting that the quicker we do this, the more painless it'll be.<br>
<br>
</div></div>okay. then, speaking as the maintainer of an independent renderer:<br>
where are such sunrise/sunset transitions announced/scheduled/tracked?<br>
is the "announce" list the place to be? (all i usually see there is<br>
server outages.) can someone point me to a region (most of) whose<br>
routes have been converted, for testing?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is being discussed right here, right now. I threw the end of next year out there as a roughly 15 month target from when I mentioned it. The US is reasonably complete in terms of route relations, particularly in Texas which tends to be an extreme case.</div></div></div></div>