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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72">For Paisley Place, maybe: <br>
<br>
abandoned:highway = residential <br>
access = no<br>
name = Paisley Place<br>
note = Your description of what the GIS people say. <br>
<br>
Since it needs to exist for addresses, it needs to be there. <br>
<br>
<br>
For the reservoir: <br>
<br>
landuse = reservoir <br>
intermittent = yes<br>
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Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 23, 2016 12:41:17 PM EDT, Steve Friedl <steve@unixwiz.net> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I have two things that I just don’t quite know how to map. Sorry that I have to provide Google Maps views to demonstrate.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span>How does one represent a named street which is really a greenbelt: never been drivable, was assigned a name just to allow attaching a street name to the houses on either side.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Example: In Irvine California there’s a residential area shown here:</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7298257,-117.7572128,19z">https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7298257,-117.7572128,19z</a></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I’m referring to Paisley Place, which is shown as a named alley connecting Garden Gate Lane and Winslow Lane.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">After surveying the area and seeing that the City of Irvine GIS showed Paisley as that greenbelt, I reported it as an error (as I’ve done dozens of times for other things), but the very helpful GIS manager reported that this is correct (but certainly odd), and the two street-like things on either side of it are just unnamed alleys.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">How do I represent this in OSM? It’s not a street that doesn’t allow access, it’s not really even a street!</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span>How do I represent a parking-lot-sized area that’s intended to collect rainwater that fills a cistern?</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">In the Santa Ana Mountains in Southern California, the satellite views show something that looks exactly like a helipad:</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7875181,-117.5805174,419m/data=!3m1!1e3">https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7875181,-117.5805174,419m/data=!3m1!1e3</a></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">But it’s not. That whole huge surface – paved in asphalt – is tilted slightly so that rainwater water will collect and fill the two cisterns to the left (zooming in you can barely see the pipe from the big pad to
the cisterns.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I cannot find anything that’s even close to describing what this is, but it’s so prominent on the maps (and interesting to visit) that I seems like it should be there even if to make note that it’s not a helipad.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Steve – who hopes the links above work.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal">--- </p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | 714 345-4571<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="mailto:steve@unixwiz.net"><span style="color:blue">steve@unixwiz.net</span></a> | Southern California | Windows Guy | unixwiz.net<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><p> </p></div><p style="margin-top:
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