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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oops, sorry Adam, replied directly to you versus the list; here’s the message: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My thoughts:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Unless something changed, I think both Potlatch and JOSM will remove the ‘junk’ tags from TIGER if you delete the reviewed=no. Maybe this is not the case with iD?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As far as classification; please note that it is not about whether the road is rural or not; it’s the function – there have been people who started changing all ‘dirt roads’ to track around me in rural Colorado – this is NOT correct. Most of the ‘dirt roads’ around here are 100% verifiably “residential”. So please don’t encourage mass changing of classification based on anything but function of the roadway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ</span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Adam Franco [mailto:adamfranco@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 03, 2016 9:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just some more feedback on the idea of a TIGER rural-residential challenge based on cleanup I've done throughout much of Vermont:<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Most of the roads in rural areas should have their highway= changed to something other than residential. (well known issue).<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Surface tags would be GREAT! I've added surface tags to most roads in Vermont, but have not quite gotten to all of them yet.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>At least here in Vermont, "private road" means that the ownership and maintenance of the road is the responsibility of the resident[s], not that "access=private". We have many private roads due to low densities of residences and Towns generally won't take over ownership/maintenance unless there are at least 3 residences and the proposal passes a public vote. The TIGER import mistakenly tagged many private-roads as "access=private". It would be great to remove this tag if it hasn't been added by a person.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p>If there is any way to help out with this effort I'd love to lend a hand. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:18 AM, James Umbanhowar <<a href="mailto:jumbanho@gmail.com" target="_blank">jumbanho@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Funny, I just looked at the MapRoulette beta and noticed that you were<br>already doing this.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 10:00 -0400, James Umbanhowar wrote:<br>> Minor suggestion for this MapRoulette challenge: Could you structure<br>> it by state (or other geographic region, county?) and do each region<br>> sequentially. I, personally, think it would be neat to see areas get<br>> "done" as far as Tiger clean up. <br>><br>> Either way, thanks for these.<br>><br>> James<br>><br>> On Fri, 2016-06-03 at 10:21 +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Well said. I have space in my basement also. <br>> ><br>> > I am eager to launch a MapRoulette challenge for untouched rural<br>> > ‘residential’ roads - a challenge which will probably take some<br>> > time<br>> > to complete. If someone can furnish a good Overpass query for this,<br>> > please go ahead and do it.<br>> ><br>> > Martijn<br>> ><br>> > ><br>> > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Richard Fairhurst <<a href="mailto:richard@systemed.n%0b">richard@systemed.n<br></a>> > > et<br>> > > ><br>> > > > wrote:<br>> > > There is a special corner of hell/Steve's basement for people who<br>> > > remove<br>> > > tiger:reviewed=no on rural unpaved roads without changing the<br>> > > highway tag or<br>> > > adding a surface tag.<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Talk-us mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org">Talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> > <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-us mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org">Talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>