<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi all (-tagging and talk-ca as this just relates to mapping locally here in the US),<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just to follow up on this, our team is starting to do some freeway exit tagging updates in the Detroit area and they are using destination:street — and the ‘destination’ tagging schema in general — as discussed back in February on this thread. This is the start of some US editing projects that our team is going to be working on in the near future. We will be back with more detail on that soon. In the mean time, you can recognize any of our team members by their OSM usernames ending in _telenav. They are a friendly bunch[1] and eager to hear your comments on their work. You can also always reach out directly to me with questions or concerns.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martijn</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[1] here’s some of them: <a href="http://blog.improve-osm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Map-2.jpg" class="">http://blog.improve-osm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Map-2.jpg</a></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 2, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Duane Gearhart <<a href="mailto:duane@mapzen.com" class="">duane@mapzen.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hey Martijn,<br class=""><br class=""></div>Apologies for my delay getting back to you.<br class=""><br class=""></div>As suggested - I added a link on the destination page [1]<br class=""><br class=""></div>For this location [2] the interchange information would look like this:<br class="">destination=West Valley<br class="">destination:ref=UT 201 West<br class="">destination:street=1300 South;2100 South<br class=""></div>as updated here [3]<br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Note how the destination:street values follow the OSM pattern of spelling out street names. Also, the semicolon separated names are easily read into a a list of exit branch street names.<br class=""><br class="">If user would would continue and take exit 305C onto 1300 South [4] as captured here [5]<br class=""></div><div class="">then the software can rank, sort, and collapse the consecutive exit information - therefore, "1300 South" would take precedence over "2100 South"<br class=""></div><div class="">I briefly discussed this at SotM US 2015 [6] at 12:23 into the video.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">I can follow-up with you after the OSM data has been processed with recent edits.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Duane<br class=""><br class="">[1] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination#See_also" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/<wbr class="">wiki/Key:destination#See_also</a><br class="">[2] <a href="http://openstreetcam.org/details/8230/168" class="">http://openstreetcam.org/details/8230/168</a><br class="">[3] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37192513" class="">http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37192513</a><br class="">[4] <a href="http://openstreetcam.org/details/8230/181" class="">http://openstreetcam.org/details/8230/181</a><br class="">[5] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32028378" class="">http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32028378</a><br class="">[6] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwglqOV6I9M" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwglqOV6I9M</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Martijn van Exel <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" target="_blank" class="">m@rtijn.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi Duane, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks. I had overlooked the examples page (even though I searched the OSM wiki for the exact term!)</div><div class="">I do appreciate the granularity of the destination:street tagging and would encourage the Telenav mappers to use it as well then, but we like to stick to conventions that are properly documented (not only in an example page). Since there is significant usage in N-America and some other regions [1], we could add it to the destination tag page [2]? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My only issue with destination:street is that there’s still ambiguity when more than one street is on the sign, like here [3]. Would that then be destination:street=1300 So.;2100 So. and destination:ref=201 and destination:West Valley? The advantage of having a separate tag partly vanishes when you still need the semicolon separator?</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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</div><div class=""><br class="m_7934371926153785352webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="">[1] <a href="http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/destination:street#map" target="_blank" class="">http://taginfo.osm.org/<wbr class="">keys/destination%3Astreet#map<br class=""></a></div><div class=""><a href="http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/destination:street#map" target="_blank" class="">[</a>2] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr class="">org/wiki/Key:destination</a></div><div class="">[3] <a href="http://openstreetcam.org/details/8230/168" target="_blank" class="">http://openstreetcam.org/<wbr class="">details/8230/168</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/destination%3Astreet#map" target="_blank" class=""><br class=""></a></div><div class=""><a href="http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/destination%3Astreet#map" target="_blank" class=""><br class=""></a></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="">On Jan 19, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Duane Gearhart <<a href="mailto:duane@mapzen.com" target="_blank" class="">duane@mapzen.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_7934371926153785352Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hey Martijn,<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">It looks correct to me - using the destination:street allows users to know if the ramp is branching onto the specified street name vs. heading toward a street name - examples are located here:</div><div class=""><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Exit_Info#Road_name_Example" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/<wbr class="">wiki/Exit_Info#Road_name_<wbr class="">Example</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mappers have been using in the US too:<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ln4" target="_blank" class="">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ln4</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here is an example way:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/11502773#map=19/39.21853/-76.65894" target="_blank" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr class="">way/11502773#map=19/39.21853/-<wbr class="">76.65894</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You can see how it is used in the directions:</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=mapzen_car&route=39.22079%2C-76.65959%3B39.22139%2C-76.65428" target="_blank" class="">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr class="">directions?engine=mapzen_car&<wbr class="">route=39.22079%2C-76.65959%<wbr class="">3B39.22139%2C-76.65428</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Duane</div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Martijn van Exel <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" target="_blank" class="">m@rtijn.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi all, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The Telenav mapping team noticed quite a few destination:street tags on (mostly) motorway_link off-ramps in Canada. This is an undocumented sub-tag of the destination tag so I am curious how it is being used and if there is some sort of consensus that is documented somewhere else than the OSM wiki.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">An Overpass query surfaced 1883 cases, <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ln2" target="_blank" class="">http://overpass-turbo.e<wbr class="">u/s/ln2</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Looking at a random one, <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34154734" target="_blank" class="">http://www.openstreetmap.<wbr class="">org/way/34154734</a> / <a href="http://openstreetcam.org/details/10767/4194" target="_blank" class="">http://open<wbr class="">streetcam.org/details/10767/<wbr class="">4194</a> — I think in the US we would just map this as destination=Carman Road;Iriquois and destination:ref=1</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So my question is whether this is some relic of a past practice, or is this actively used and encouraged mapping practice and if so, where should it be documented? (<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Destination_details" target="_blank" class="">https://wiki.openstreetmap.or<wbr class="">g/wiki/Proposed_features/Desti<wbr class="">nation_details</a> seems to be a good candidate.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’re happy to help improve these tags based on OSC / Mapillary data but I wanted to make sure first that this is the way you all want to go.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Happy mapping,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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