<div dir="ltr">(Well, since everybody else is top posting...)<div><br></div><div>Since it was my bright idea to contact the webmaster, and since everyone else posting seems to claim that no such link exists, I thought I'd go ahead and look and see if I could find something others had missed.</div><div><br></div><div>Well, no, I can't find a "Contact the Webmaster" link, or even a "Contact Us" *e-mail* link, either. (The link <a href="https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquarters">https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquarters</a> gives a paper mail address and phone number, but no e-mail address.)</div><div><br></div><div>I did however find an "Accessibility" page, <a href="https://www.fbi.gov/accessibility">https://www.fbi.gov/accessibility</a> , which says:<br><br>"If you have any other questions or problems about the FBI.gov site, you may contact the FBI.gov content manager in writing or via telephone at:<br><br>Federal Bureau of Investigation<br>Attention: FBI Internet Content Manager<br>935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Room 7790-C<br>Washington, DC 20535-0001<br>(202) 324-3000<br><br>You can also send an e-mail to <a href="mailto:FBI_Accessibility@ic.fbi.gov">FBI_Accessibility@ic.fbi.gov</a>."</div><div><br></div><div>That might be of some use, even tho this isn't specifically an accessibility issue. If nothing else, hopefully they would know how to forward a legal / copyright issue on to whomever within the web team there is supposed to deal with such.</div><div><br></div><div>If someone does contact them about this issue, perhaps a suggestion that there should be a "Contact the Webmaster" link or web form or something should be made, too?</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this is of some use, interest. Thanks for your time. Be well.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Mikel Maron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikel.maron@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikel.maron@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yui_3_16_0_1_1498661812267_650289" dir="ltr"><span id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yui_3_16_0_1_1498661812267_650383">I'm going to check with some USG tech friends to see if they know anyone on the FBI web team. I think it may prove more expedient and get better attention than calling or emailing parts of the bureau which have little to do with this.</span></div><div id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yui_3_16_0_1_1498661812267_650289" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yui_3_16_0_1_1498661812267_650289" dir="ltr"><span>-Mikel</span></div><div></div><div id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yui_3_16_0_1_1498661812267_650437"> </div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765signature" id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yui_3_16_0_1_1498661812267_650436">* Mikel Maron * <a href="tel:(415)%20283-5207" value="+14152835207" target="_blank">+14152835207</a> @mikel s:mikelmaron</div> <div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="gmail-"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, June 30, 2017 5:28 PM, Dale Puch <<a href="mailto:dale.puch@gmail.com" target="_blank">dale.puch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> </span><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765y_msg_container"><div id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853"><div><span class="gmail-"><div dir="ltr"><div>My mistake, Leaflet's example map and code on their main page do show correct attribution to OSM<br clear="none"></div><br clear="none">So back to the FBI <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/cve508/technical-support" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/cve508/<wbr>technical-support</a> seems to suggest contacting a community outreach specialist in your local field office (via a dead link for me).<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/richmond/community-outreach-1" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/contact-<wbr>us/field-offices/richmond/<wbr>community-outreach-1</a> just lists <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:Training.RH@ic.fbi.gov" target="_blank">Training.RH@ic.fbi.gov </a>as a possible contact </div></span><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_signature">Dale Puch</div></div>
<br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853yqt2270613556" id="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853yqt86197"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-">On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Denis Carriere <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:carriere.denis@gmail.com" target="_blank">carriere.denis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-">It's not Leaflet's fault the attribution is incorrect, their website is disabling the default attribution and adding a custom one.</span><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853m_5422052809844705143gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div><i>~~~~~~</i></div><div><i><b>Denis Carriere</b></i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853">On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Dale Puch <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:dale.puch@gmail.com" target="_blank">dale.puch@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span></span><blockquote class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853"></span><div dir="ltr">A better route is to contact <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://leafletjs.com/" target="_blank">http://leafletjs.com/</a> since they are providing the actual map data thru their script. Also they probably do so for lots of other sites.<br clear="none">Leaflet does attribute Openstreetmap at the bottom of their main page page though.<br clear="none"></div></span><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853m_5422052809844705143m_-1098452963591227313gmail_signature">Dale Puch</div></div>
<br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853">On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 2:36 PM, David Kewley <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:david.t.kewley@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.t.kewley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span></span><blockquote class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853">It looks like all the FBI field office sites are essentially part of the national site, so they're all probably managed centrally. They all credit Leaflet in the map widget, and use OSM tiles without crediting OSM.</span><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It's been years since I've noticed webmaster links, like we used to have in the early days of the Web. Poking around, I couldn't find any technical feedback links at all on <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://fbi.gov/" target="_blank">fbi.gov</a>. Ideas for contacting someone who might be able to help with this issue:</div></span><div><ul><span class="gmail-"><li>Call the national FBI number: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">(202) 324-3000</a> from <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquarters" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us /fbi-headquarters</a>.</li></span><li>Email one of the Community Outreach addresses available at various field offices ("Community Outreach" link near the top of each field office's page). E.g. for the San Francisco office, it's <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:outreach.sf@ic.fbi.gov" target="_blank">outreach.sf@ic.fbi.gov</a> from <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/sanfrancisco/community-outreach-1" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/conta ct-us/field-offices/sanfrancis co/community-outreach-1</a>. Some other field offices also have outreach email addresses.</li><li>On their "Businesses" page <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/resources/businesses" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/resou rces/businesses</a>, they have a link for "Intellectual Property Theft/Piracy" at <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/white-collar-crime/piracy-ip-theft" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/investi gate/white-collar-crime/piracy -ip-theft</a>. While this issue seems economically tiny compared to the IP theft issues they tend to spend time on, it might be possible to get someone's help this way, since it's their own website. (Although the reporting methods I found went to other offices, not obviously directly to the FBI.)</li></ul><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853">I won't be following up on these in the foreseeable future, but if someone else does follow up, please let us all know what happens.<br clear="none"></span><div><br clear="none"></div><div>David</div></span></div><span class="gmail-"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853m_5422052809844705143m_-1098452963591227313h5">On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Joseph R. Justice <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:jayarejay@gmail.com" target="_blank">jayarejay@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853"></span><div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853m_5422052809844705143m_-1098452963591227313h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_extra"><span></span><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:miketho16@gmail.com" target="_blank">miketho16@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote"><span><br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/denver" target="_blank">https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us /field-offices/denver</a><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>See map in upper right part of page</div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Does either the page for the Denver field office, and/or the nation-wide field office locator referred to in a separate post in this thread, include a "Contact the Webmaster" sort of link? Or even just a "Contact Us" link? Those would be a first obvious point of contact, I'd think...</div><span class="gmail-m_7910749515721311765yiv3398477853m_5422052809844705143m_-1098452963591227313m_9133682074837769568gmail-m_-148991332987693229HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Joseph</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div>
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