<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:52 PM, <a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" class="">m@rtijn.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I used to depend on a ferry for my commute[1] so the topic connects with me as well.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Looking at how this is currently mapped, I see some shortcomings we might want to address:</div><div class="">* The duration is mostly mapped on the way, rather than the route=ferry relation. Often the route is more than one way, wouldn’t it make more sense to map duration as a tag on the relation?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Case in point, run this query and you see that the result is just the start / end stubs of the route, the ‘main’ ferry route way apparently has the duration tag: <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlF" class="">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlF</a></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">* The duration can be different depending on time of day / direction. Accounting for that may make the tagging unwieldy so I’m inclined to not deal with that, but what are your thoughts?<br class=""><div class="">* Would it make sense to map hours / days of operation using the opening_hours schema as well?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martijn</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[1] This was back in Amsterdam. There is a tunnel for motorized traffic to the city, but the only option for cyclists and pedestrians (>50% of all commutes!) is a ferry. It runs very frequently and the crossing is short, but to optimize my commute I created a mobile web site that counted down to the next departure, so I could quickly look up the time to the next departure so I knew whether to pedal a little faster or slower. Defunct now but here is the blog post for historical reference <a href="https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/public-transit-schedule-encoding/" class="">https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/public-transit-schedule-encoding/</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Nick Peihl <<a href="mailto:nick.peihl@gmail.com" class="">nick.peihl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi Martijn,<br class=""><br class=""></div>As a resident of a ferry-served island in WA, I fully support adding this job to MapRoulette. Thanks!<br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div>Nick<br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:57 AM, <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" target="_blank" class="">m@rtijn.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br class="">
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Just to let you know, my map team colleagues have been adding a few `duration` tags to ferry routes in BC yesterday. Since this was already established practice, I am only mentioning it now. I am crossposting to talk-us because I wanted to see if folks there have given any thought to ferry duration tagging? The documented practice is to add duration=hh:mm to the way that makes up the ferry route. If you think this is fun to map I could add ferry routes without duration to MapRoulette.<br class="">
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Here is the current state of duration tags in BC: <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlE" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qlE</a><br class="">
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