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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m posting this response on behalf of David Wisbey:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I have been a volunteer mapper for about 6 years<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">and have developed a way of mapping the various<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">different kinds of residential streets/roads.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I limit the use of "residential" to typical residential city or town government-maintained streets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I use "living street" for residential streets that are completely open to the public but not maintained<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">by the local or state government; they must have a street name as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I use "service road" (with no service road type added) for the main ways through and around<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">a development (mobile home park, apartment complex, condominium or townhome cluster, etc)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">that do not have names of their own. If they do have have names, I map those that have the names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">as "living street".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Any street that must be accessed by a gate (manned or unmanned, doesn't matter) I add access = private.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Some places have "decorative" gates that don't really function as security measures as they are always<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">open. If there is a sign that says "private" road at the so-called "gate" then I would set access = permissive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I have done some editing in the past in the Phoenix area, but to see more of my work (in relation to others'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">work) you might want to look at Yuma, Arizona. I did not completely "finish" the whole area, and plan to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">return to Yuma at some time in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">(PS - If you could post this to the thread you started on OSM-US that would be nice. I can't seem to get it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">to do that for me.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">(PPS - I am also open to doing paid work, mainly in Colorado, especially Denver.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">David Wisbey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">"Your Village Maps"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ionut Radu - (p) <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'talk-us@openstreetmap.org' <talk-us@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> guidelines regarding roads access<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">While editing road geometry in Phoenix we found some situations that are arguable, considering the private districts/neighborhoods/trailer parks and other strata-style developments, with/without street names and with/without gates at the
entrance:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- streets are mapped as residential roads with unlimited access. (ex: 33.5412459, -112.2150893)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- streets are mapped as residential roads with limited access after the gate (access=no, access=private, access=destination) (ex: 33.5315072, -112.0206161; 33.5827081, -112.3206423)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- streets are mapped as service roads with unlimited access. (ex. 33.5025225, -112.2000377)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- streets are mapped as service roads with limited access, after the gate (access=no, access=private, access=destination). (ex: 33.465453, -112.1891347; 33.5582823, -112.2025324)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">- streets are mapped as living streets with unlimited access. (ex: 33.5029957, -111.9380925)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For us it's a little bit confusing if we should map those areas with service, residential roads or even living streets and if there are some gates at the entrance if we should tag them with restrictive access.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, if you know some rules or guidelines regarding those particular cases, please give us a feedback.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:white">Ionut Radu</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><br>
<span style="background:white">Map Analyst</span><br>
<span style="background:white">Telenav</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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