<div dir="auto"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 24, 2017 8:33 AM, "Greg Troxel" <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com">gdt@lexort.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="quoted-text"><br>
Adam Franco <<a href="mailto:adamfranco@gmail.com">adamfranco@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
<br>
> One additional note is that at least in my area, the TIGER import<br>
> incorrectly added access=private to many driveways and privately maintained<br>
> residential roads. Upon surveying these I've found that they are signed<br>
> "Private" or "PVT" on the street-name sign to indicate<br>
> private-maintenance/ownership (don't complain to the town about a lack of<br>
> snow-plowing/grading), but do not in reality have an access restriction.<br>
</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=oyEdoFPUg3yayTv1deHZUQ&lat=33.567826&lng=-112.016051&z=17">https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=oyEdoFPUg3yayTv1deHZUQ&lat=33.567826&lng=-112.016051&z=17</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I initially marked a street like this as access=private.  Then I found out that this definition of private is more like Adam's experience. However, I did not experience the issue with the TIGER import. I am not sure that an HOA is a good thing.  I stay away from them for a number of reasons including the leftovers of the subprime rate debacle. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investigations/2017/09/14/phoenix-area-homeowners-associations-foreclosing-record-number-homeowners/595816001/">http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investigations/2017/09/14/phoenix-area-homeowners-associations-foreclosing-record-number-homeowners/595816001/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="quoted-text"><br>
</div>For a "private way" (legal term in my state for what I think you refer<br>
to as "privately maintained residential road"), I agree that there<br>
shouldn't be access=private.<br>
<br>
For a driveway to someone's house, access=private seems right, in that<br>
it's generally at least impolite to use that road other than as<br>
visitor/delivery/etc.<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto">...</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">But, that tends to lead to pink blobs in rendering, and I'm not sure<br>
that's the right thing, as service roads having the status "you should<br>
use these only when dealing with the adjacent entities" seems to be the<br>
default/normal case.  We should adjust rendering, not access, to make<br>
this pleasing.<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The rendering has been changed to a gray dashed center line.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Greg</div></div>