<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Toby Murray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:toby.murray@gmail.com" target="_blank">toby.murray@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Peter Dobratz <<a href="mailto:peter@dobratz.us" target="_blank">peter@dobratz.us</a>> wrote:<br>
> Ilya,<br>
><br>
> Here's a Walmart that's been built in the last few years I recently added to<br>
> OSM:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://audit.osmz.ru/browse/walmart/5935" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://audit.osmz.ru/browse/wa<wbr>lmart/5935</a><br>
><br>
> What's currently in OSM represents my own mapping style, but I think it's<br>
> worth discussing the differences before you change them across the whole<br>
> country.<br>
><br>
><br>
> If I read this correctly, you are planning on changing the top-level tag<br>
> from shop=department_store to shop=supermarket. I have been using<br>
> shop=supermarket only for Walmarts branded as "Walmart Neighborhood Market"<br>
> and using shop=department_store for all other Walmarts. For me the main<br>
> distinction is that most Walmarts have departments for things like clothing<br>
> and electronics that don't exist in the "Walmart Neighborhood Market"<br>
> stores.<br>
<br>
</span>This was my first thought as well but apparently we are wrong. The<br>
wiki is actually fairly clear about it:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsupermarket" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsupermarket</a><br>
<br>
Under the "Similar Tags" section on that page:<br>
"A department store that sells a full selection of groceries (e.g.<br>
Walmart Supercentre) which is often called a "hypermarket" should be<br>
tagged shop=supermarket"<br>
<br>
And over on the shop=department_store page it says that only<br>
non-supercenter stores should use the department_store tag.<br>
<br>
I'm not saying it makes sense to me... but this is apparently the<br>
convention. Decided upon by... someone :)<br>
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Toby<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>OSM user andrewpmk added similar language in May 2015 to both the shop=supermarket and shop=department_store wiki pages describing that a shop=department_store becomes a shop=supermarket if there is a section for selling fresh grocery items. The wiki change comments don't give any rationale for the new wording, and to me the idea is counterintuitive. I have attempted to communicate with user andrewpmk in the past, but never received any response. Is anyone aware of a discussion that took place prior to introducing these changes to the wiki?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br>Peter</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>