<div dir="ltr">Adam,<div>Thanks for adding Vermont. </div><div><br></div><div>At some point I'd like to do like you did with surfaces. One of the problems I run into is that every agency seems to have a different list of surfaces. We'd should probably try to create a conversion chart to map different names into OSM surface types.</div><div><br></div><div>For example, USFS roads has the following surface types<br>




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<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"> AC - ASPHALT </span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>AGG - CRUSHED AGGREGATE OR GRAVEL</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>AGG - LIMESTONE</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>AGG - SCORIA</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>BST - BITUMINOUS SURFACE TREATMENT</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>CSOIL - COMPACTED SOIL</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>FSOIL - FROZEN SOIL</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>IMP - IMPROVED NATIVE MATERIAL</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>NATIVE MATERIAL</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>NAT - NATIVE MATERIAL</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>OTHER - OTHER<span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>PCC - PORTLAND CEMENT CONCRETE</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>PIT - PIT RUN SHOT ROCK</span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>P - PAVED<span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>SOD - GRASS<span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"><br></span></span></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">From Okanogan county in Washington they have</span></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">




<span></span>





</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>D <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space">  </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>d <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> null (which has the highest count)</span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>P <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>G <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>


<br><p></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">The states metadata can help us build a conversion to OSM surface types;</span></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><br></span></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">Clifford</span></p><p class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="m_-5338254611111278932gmail-Apple-converted-space"><br></span></span></p>


<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:49 AM Adam Franco <<a href="mailto:adamfranco@gmail.com" target="_blank">adamfranco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I've added <a href="http://geodata.vermont.gov/datasets/VTrans::vt-road-centerline" target="_blank">Vermont's center-line</a> info to the spreadsheet. As someone who does a lot of filtering of OSM roads based on surface, exposing surface info to a broader group of editors would be a fabulous win. Thanks for heading in this direction!<br></div><div><br></div><div>To do my own surface entry I've resorted to side-by side JOSM and QGIS windows with the latter showing a color-coded road-centerline file. As can be imagined, most people won't go to this effort and hence US road-surface data in OSM is pretty patchy to say the least.<br></div><div><div><img src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=330f7e3e61&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-7855386059790153048&view=fimg&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ8v0bjdLOkvfqiDIHOKooN3IayndNncvEN3SBvGN1CPDxbcL-6CiAcPG162Nj7eJCORbEbzWZILDXUXEsGcx2Rf_ChQBh1ng9iXTa95qCXhF6SQrAggXy7wYrs&disp=emb&realattid=ii_jkl6tt8q1_16519ca7d03757dc" width="300" height="121"><br></div></div><div><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:32 PM, Elliott Plack <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elliott.plack@gmail.com" target="_blank">elliott.plack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Maryland’s Transportation Basemap is already availability in iD and JOSM as an imagery source. We also have a slew of open datasets including centerline and speed limits. I’ll take a look at the doc and add some. <a href="http://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets?q=transportation" target="_blank">http://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets?q=transportation</a><br><br>Kudos on getting this together!<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-5338254611111278932m_-4092395459778069146h5"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 23:27 Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-5338254611111278932m_-4092395459778069146h5"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Clifford Snow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us" target="_blank">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ian,<div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:30 AM Ian Dees <<a href="mailto:ian.dees@gmail.com" target="_blank">ian.dees@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for putting this together, Clifford!<div><br></div><div>I was collecting street centerline data as part of OpenAddresses a while ago here: <a href="https://github.com/openaddresses/centerlines" target="_blank">https://github.com/openaddresses/centerlines</a></div><div><br></div><div>I'm happy to add you to this repo if you want to use this repo or feel free to pull from this repo into your spreadsheet.</div><div><br></div><div>My goal with this was to pull all this data into a single, country-wide layer to map in OSM with. I'm happy to help you down that path, if that's what you're thinking.<br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>That is exactly my goal - get all of the states with open data into a background image that people could use to trace from, much like your TIGER 2017 and previous years. My initial attempt will be just centerlines with street names. Later we need to add surface and other details.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div></div>This could present a feedback loop in Oklahoma, since OklaDOT's portal can use (and in some datasets, does use by default) OSM.</div></div></div></div><span>
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