<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Leif,<div><br></div><div>What's the next step in your process on this?</div><div><br></div><div>I prefer the "operator"="United States Postal Service". Not only does it match the sticker on the side of many blue mail boxes ( <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Post_office_drivethrough_lane.jpg" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Post_office_drivethrough_lane.jpg</a> ), it follows the general OSM guideline of not putting abbreviations in names of things ( <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Abbreviation_.28don.27t_do_it.29" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Abbreviation_.28don.27t_do_it.29</a> ). The <a href="https://www.usps.com/" target="_blank">https://www.usps.com/</a> website seems to use both USPS and United States Postal Service.</div><div><div><br></div></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Peter</div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:02 PM Jack Burke <<a href="mailto:burkejf3@gmail.com" target="_blank">burkejf3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Because they are labeled "United States Postal Service" with big stickers, that's how I've been tagging them. <br>
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-jack<br>
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Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On August 28, 2018 4:02:40 PM EDT, Jmapb <<a href="mailto:jmapb@gmx.com" target="_blank">jmapb@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
On 8/28/2018 3:31 PM, Leif Rasmussen wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
<div>A couple of days ago, I noticed that different post boxes
in the United States had different ways of tagging that they
were part of the USPS system. Roughly 60% had
"operator"="USPS", 40% "operator"="United States Postal
Service", and about 15 similar to "operator"="United States
Post Services" or "United States Post Office". I wanted to
make them all the same, so I asked on the OSMUS Slack group
about the tags, and most people supported "USPS". I then
proceeded to upload a changeset manually converting 1500
"United States Postal Service" or similar to "USPS". I should
have waited longer before uploading.</div>
<div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62020302" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62020302</a><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Boq" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Boq</a><br>
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<div>All post boxes in the USPS system now have
"operator"="USPS".</div>
<div>After uploading, people expressed concern about the choice
of "USPS" over "United States Postal Service". The wiki
states that abbreviations should be expanded, "USPS" could be
confused with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Power_Squadrons" target="_blank">other agencies</a>,
and this counted as an automated edit, which should have had
better planning with the OSM community.</div>
<div>I would now like to propose converting all post boxes with
the tag "operator"="USPS" to "operator"="United States Postal
Service". I would also like to add the tag
"operator:wikidata"="Q668687" to the post boxes that currently
have "operator"="USPS". Please reply with any feedback or
concerns you have with this proposal. <br>
</div>
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<p>Thanks for looping us in, Leif. Haven't made it to the slack
group yet, but when I noticed that change I thought to myself
"thank the Lord, it's over!" Every time I've tagged a post box
I've managed to convince myself that I did it wrong the previous
time. So I rotated between "USPS", "usps" and "United States
Postal Service" and figured I'd get around to fixing them when my
brain settled down. Seeing someone else take the initiative was a
relief, despite the understandable grumbling about automated
edits.<br>
</p>
<p>Now that it's done, I'm in favor of making an exception to the
no-abbreviations rule for a fixed set of couriers, so sticking
with USPS. It's easy to tag and read, and I don't think it's truly
ambiguous... if the United States Power Squadrons start a courier
service, *they* should be tagged with the fully expanded name.<br>
</p>
<p>Another reason is that there are plenty of private company post
boxes, and I'd like the tagging style to be consistent as
possible, with the commonly-used compact versions of their names.
I feel operator=UPS, operator=FedEx, operator=DHL will be easier
to write, maintain, and read than operator=United Parcel Service,
operator=Federal Express, operator=.. well, I still can't figure
out what DHL actually stands for.</p>
<p>Also -- not an issue for postboxes per se, but I've found
occasion to tag some some shops with the shipping companies they
offer, and the idea of a semicolon-seperated list of fully
expanded shipping company names makes me weary.</p>
<p>(No problem with adding the operator:wikidata tag.)<br>
</p>
<p>Thanks, Jason<br>
</p>
<br>
<br>
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