<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:38 AM Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I've noticed that federal Wilderness areas in Northern California and<br>
Southern Oregon are mapped as if they are not part of the surrounding<br>
national forest(s).<br>
<br>
Is this correct mapping? On older USGS maps the Wilderness areas were<br>
always shown as being enclosed by the surrounding National Forest (or<br>
other Federal lands).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I thought I'd answered this, but I can't find it in my 'Sent' folder. Forgive me if this turns out to be a duplicate message.</div><div><br></div><div>New York has only one (quite small) National Forest, so I can't comment specifically on embedded wilderness areas in National Forests. Nevertheless, we have a similar situation with Wilderness, Wild Forest, Canoe Area, Primitive Area, etc. embedded in the Catskill and Adirondack Parks. We already have those embedded areas set up with boundary=protected area (example: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6360488">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6360488</a>) with the enclosing parks tagged with boundary=national_park (<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1695394">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1695394</a>). The Wilderness areas enjoy a stronger protection than the park as a whole, but are unquestionably a part of it. I presume that's how embedded Wilderness in the National Forests works, too?</div><div><br></div><div>Incidentally, I'm comfortable with boundary=national_park for the Adirondack and Catskill Parks. The Federal government shares sovereignty with the States, and New York created these two parks acting as a sovereign entity. They enjoy stronger protection than the US National Parks - a simple public law could revoke the latter, while the former are enshrined in the state constitution and would require a constitutional amendment to change them. They predate the National Park Service, by the way.</div></div></div></div></div>