<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The benefit is that it gives mappers a reason to examine places - not just the disappeared feature itself but also the area around it - that would otherwise go unexamined. Since we have so much unexamined space in the U.S., any opportunity to spark mappers’ curiosity about some of that space, is a welcome trigger. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It may feel like a time sink for some, but my hope is that others will feel it’s an interesting exercise to improve the map. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Stepping back a bit, the urge to fix previous automated edits with new automated fixes is understandable, but it may lead to a more casual approach to imports and automated edits, because we basically say with each fix that ill-informed automated map edits can always be fixed with more automated edits later. We’ve already gone down that path in the U.S. quite far, so we should proceed with extra care - unless we as a community decide that that is the nature of OSM in this country. It isn’t to me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martijn<br class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 21, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" class="">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">Mar 21, 2019, 4:46 AM by <a href="mailto:m@rtijn.org" class="">m@rtijn.org</a>:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">I plan to run an automated edit that will revert part of the GNIS</span></span><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">import that added them and delete objects that never had any reason to</span></span><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">appear in the OSM database in any form, at least according to GNIS data.</span></span><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will not</span></span><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">make the edit without a clear support so please comment if you think</span></span><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica"><span class="size" style="font-size:14px">that it is a good idea and if you think that it should not be done.<span class=""> </span></span></span><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">Thanks for bringing the idea up. It actually did come up fairly recently on Slack <a href="https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1550176430103000" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1550176430103000</a> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">My view is that we would be missing an opportunity to have mappers review these locations and update the areas concerned. These nodes exist mostly in ‘undermapped' / remote areas that could use some human mapper attention. So I’d be in favor of trying to resolve this using some human driven cleanup first.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">What is the benefit, during survey, of mapped places that are not existing anymore?<br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">I encounter many during surveys (usually result of data getting outdated) and for me it was<br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">always time sink (as I needed to check is it actually gone) and never useful in any way.<br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">Note that it is not obvious, especially for beginner or data users, that all of this places<br class=""></div><div style="16px" text-align="left" class="">are not existing anymore.<br class=""></div> </div>
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