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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">29 Apr 2019, 17:36 by kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:24 AM Mateusz Konieczny<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><<a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Why not simply call anything which is a 'large public area for recreation', a park, and specify it additionally with additional tags?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">That would require redefining leisure=park and while would match use of word "park" in USA<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">it would start mismatching use of work "park" in UK. It would also start to mismatch how<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">leisure=park is used in Europe.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Generally British English is preferred in OSM and redefining popular tags is deeply problematic.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Are we talking about the use of the *tag*, or the use of the *word* in<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">British English?<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">It is supposed to be about both, I attempted to check both but I open to discovering that I am mistaken.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">In case of British English I attempted to consult with people who are native speakers of BE <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">and people better in English than myself but maybe my questions/examples failed to capture<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">cases of what should be described park (and or leisure=park).<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I know that it is possible, that is part of the reason why I posted quoted message (it would be embarassing<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">to discover that my claims were wrong but I prefer to discover as soon as possible).<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">If we're talking about the use of the word 'park' in common speech,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">the British Isles have ample examples of 'park' being used in a sense<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">much like the US one: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/359617831">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/359617831</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">happened to be the first one I noticed, but<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/421685070">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/421685070</a> and others are also<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">present. If these aren't 'parks' in UK English, why do they exist in<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">the UK with 'park' in their names?<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">Neither of them is tagged leisure=park and it seems that<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">"national park" is in some way similar to "business park" or "industrial park"<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">- word park is in the name but it is not considered as a special case<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">of "green human-sculpted landscape" that is commonly referred to as<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">a "park".<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Note that I may be mistaken here, my check was quick sanity check of<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">a biased group of people not some scientific research<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">I also notice that Great Britain has similar situations to the US<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">national parks, where other land uses are embedded. I see that<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Cairngorms National Park<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1947603">https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1947603</a> embeds at least four<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">villages (Avlemore, Ballater, Grantown-on-Spey and Kingussie).<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">This one is not surprising to me, it is probably result of compromise/conflict<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">resulting in potected area with some objects that are contrary to any <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">nature protection attempts.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Poland has cases of legal large-scale active logging in Tatra mountains <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">that is result of conflict between local people and desire to protect nature.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">See <a href="https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wsp%C3%B3lnota_Le%C5%9Bna_Uprawnionych_O%C5%9Bmiu_Wsi">https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wsp%C3%B3lnota_Le%C5%9Bna_Uprawnionych_O%C5%9Bmiu_Wsi</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">- conflict dates back to creation of the Tatrzański Park Narodowy (=Tatra National Park).<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">See also motorways going sometimes through protected or "protected" areas.<br></div> </body>
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