<div dir="ltr"><div>This looks like something that there still is not consensus on.</div><div><br></div><div>Here are couple of roads that are not plowed in the winter in my area of Vermont. Both are tagged differently:<br></div><div>Lincoln Gap Road: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19729533">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19729533</a></div><div>VT 108 through Smugglers Notch: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48775843">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48775843</a></div><div><br></div><div>Looks like we have a few different overlapping keys: <br></div><div><ul><li><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Conditional_restrictions&uselang=en-US">access:conditional</a><br></li><li><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal?uselang=en-US">seasonal</a><br></li><li><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:winter%20service?uselang=en-US">winter_service</a><br></li></ul></div><div>winter_service=no looks like the simplest option to me, but not knowing how the data will be used, the safest bet is probably to put <i>"closed in winter"</i> right in the name as is the case with VT 108. It's not correct data modeling, but it will mean people looking at a map are sure to see it.<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:10 PM Bill Ricker <<a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">> Burlington Family Rescued After GPS Leads Minivan Down Snowmobile Path. BURLINGTON (CBS) <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">> It was an early morning rescue by ATV Sunday in Jefferson, New Hampshire.<br>> ... The family was stranded on Jefferson Notch Road, which is restricted to snowmobiles only during the winter months.<br>> 2 days ago</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">> <a href="https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/12/29/burlington-family-stranded-after-following-gps-onto-snowmobile-trail" target="_blank">https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/12/29/burlington-family-stranded-after-following-gps-onto-snowmobile-trail</a></div><div><br><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">Yeah, I'm not surprised that a road that goes literally through Jefferson Notch isn't plowed in the winter; the road's high point in the notch (aka "col" or "saddle," the diminutive of "pass") is 3,009 feet (917 m), only barely below the height of Mount Mitten (929 m) which the road passes, and lower than Currier Mtn (838 m) just beyond. Yeah that's not high in young mountains, but at this latitude, that altitude gets plenty snow. I expect even the winter snowmobile path through the notch should be attempted only by parties of multiple experienced operators prepared for mountains' changeable conditions. <br><br>(I'm guessing the gating/bollards will get upgraded so that only snowmobiles, Cats, and emergency 4WD/6WD even /can/ enter during winter.)</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">In the summer, this road will provide a lovely if challenging shortcut between US 2 and US 302, of which there are precious few in the environs of Mt Washington and the Presidential Range of the White Mountains. <br></div><br><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">OSM - <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18846225#map=12/44.3103/-71.3696" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18846225#map=12/44.3103/-71.3696</a></div></div><div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">Our way does not (as of this writing) show a tag indicating seasonally variable access.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">Proposed tag<tt dir="ltr" style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a> winter_service</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:winter_service%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1" title="Tag:winter service=no (page does not exist)" target="_blank">no</a></tt> isn't quite strong enough but would be a start.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif" class="gmail_default">What is the right way to tag a road which is 3 season dramatic automobile mountain short-cut and one-season snowmobile trail? <br></div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Bill Ricker<br><a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com" target="_blank">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a><div><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux</a> <br></div></div></div></div>
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