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Considering the keys pointed to by Zeke, I also like
winter_service=no. <br>
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There are a few US or state highways in CO which close, the tagging
is not consistent.<br>
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US 34, Independence pass<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/627645541#map=17/39.10849/-106.55914">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/627645541#map=17/39.10849/-106.55914</a><br>
"motor_vehicle"="conditional=no @ winter"<br>
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US 34, Rocky mtn NP, way 329057779<br>
has it embedded in the name and also:<br>
access:conditional=no @ Oct 14th - May 31st<br>
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I'd like to point out that many of the roads in the rocky mtns are
not maintained in the winter. That goes for almost every forest
service road, and many county roads. I think it's proper to leave
these without an explicit winter tag with the implicit understanding
that safe passage is not guaranteed. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/1/20 9:50 PM, Zeke Farwell wrote:<br>
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<div>This looks like something that there still is not consensus
on.</div>
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<div>Here are couple of roads that are not plowed in the winter
in my area of Vermont. Both are tagged differently:<br>
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<div>Lincoln Gap Road: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19729533"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19729533</a></div>
<div>VT 108 through Smugglers Notch: <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48775843"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48775843</a></div>
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<div>Looks like we have a few different overlapping keys: <br>
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<ul>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Conditional_restrictions&uselang=en-US"
moz-do-not-send="true">access:conditional</a><br>
</li>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal?uselang=en-US"
moz-do-not-send="true">seasonal</a><br>
</li>
<li><a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:winter%20service?uselang=en-US"
moz-do-not-send="true">winter_service</a><br>
</li>
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<div>winter_service=no looks like the simplest option to me, but
not knowing how the data will be used, the safest bet is
probably to put <i>"closed in winter"</i> right in the name
as is the case with VT 108. It's not correct data modeling,
but it will mean people looking at a map are sure to see it.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:10
PM Bill Ricker <<a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">>
Burlington Family Rescued After GPS Leads Minivan Down
Snowmobile Path. BURLINGTON (CBS) <br>
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It was an early morning rescue by ATV Sunday in Jefferson,
New Hampshire.<br>
> ... The family was stranded on Jefferson Notch Road,
which is restricted to snowmobiles only during the winter
months.<br>
> 2 days ago</div>
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<a
href="https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/12/29/burlington-family-stranded-after-following-gps-onto-snowmobile-trail"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/12/29/burlington-family-stranded-after-following-gps-onto-snowmobile-trail</a></div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif"
class="gmail_default">Yeah, I'm not surprised that a
road that goes literally through Jefferson Notch isn't
plowed in the winter; the road's high point in the notch
(aka "col" or "saddle," the diminutive of "pass") is
3,009 feet (917 m), only barely below the height of
Mount Mitten (929 m) which the road passes, and lower
than Currier Mtn (838 m) just beyond. Yeah that's not
high in young mountains, but at this latitude, that
altitude gets plenty snow. I expect even the winter
snowmobile path through the notch should be attempted
only by parties of multiple experienced operators
prepared for mountains' changeable conditions. <br>
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(I'm guessing the gating/bollards will get upgraded so
that only snowmobiles, Cats, and emergency 4WD/6WD even
/can/ enter during winter.)</div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif"
class="gmail_default">In the summer, this road will
provide a lovely if challenging shortcut between US 2
and US 302, of which there are precious few in the
environs of Mt Washington and the Presidential Range of
the White Mountains. <br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif"
class="gmail_default">OSM - <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18846225#map=12/44.3103/-71.3696"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/18846225#map=12/44.3103/-71.3696</a></div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif"
class="gmail_default">Our way does not (as of this
writing) show a tag indicating seasonally variable
access.</div>
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class="gmail_default">Proposed tag<tt dir="ltr"
style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll
0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"> winter_service</a>=<a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:winter_service%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1"
title="Tag:winter service=no (page does not exist)"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">no</a></tt>
isn't quite strong enough but would be a start.</div>
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class="gmail_default"><br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif"
class="gmail_default">What is the right way to tag a
road which is 3 season dramatic automobile mountain
short-cut and one-season snowmobile trail? <br>
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