<div dir="ltr"><div>Kevin wrote::</div><div>
A nit: most 'improved' gravel roads are surface=compacted. 'gravel' is
like rail ballast; a compacted surface ordinarily has a mix of fine
gravel and even finer material such as sand, and is rolled. Americans
will often refer to a compacted road as a 'dirt' or 'gravel' road but
the difference is like night and day when you're driving on one! <br></div><div><br></div><div>I must admit, this one really got me. For much of life when I lived
in New York state, where Kevin and I are from, locals called all unpaved roads "dirt roads". When I started using OSM, I realized that the definition of "dirt" here is closer to "ground" so I began to use either unpaved or gravel for the surfaces of rural roads in Alaska and Thailand. Eventually, I found out that gravel means the type of stones found on railroads, which is big chunks of crushed rock and that the surface of the improved roads I was tagging was actually surface=compacted with tracktype=grade2. The type of mapping I do is 90% armchair mapping so it's difficult to ascertain these characteristics so I default to surface=unpaved in most cases. Alaska is an exception because most rural roads below the tertiary class are well-prepared, unpaved compacted surface roads. These I feel confidant to tag with surface=compacted and tracktype=grade2</div><div><br></div><div>My 2 cents.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:20 PM Clifford Snow <<a href="mailto:clifford@snowandsnow.us">clifford@snowandsnow.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If you are using JOSM there is a USFS road layer. The color of the way indicates surface and highway classification if I remember correctly. I posted the legend on Slack a couple of years ago. <div><br></div><div>The TIGER import data quality varied from region to region. Even today in Washington State it's bad, so bad that I don't recommend using it. My guess is that it's low priority for counties to update Feds, especially when their budgets are already tight. There is even one county in Washington State that they don't even have a current road layer. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Clifford</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:48 PM <<a href="mailto:tj-osmwiki@lowsnr.net" target="_blank">tj-osmwiki@lowsnr.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi folks,<br>
<br>
Editing in Boundary County, Idaho in the Panhandle, I've been extending<br>
the forest landuse area around Bonners Ferry and have come across a<br>
difficulty in classifying forest roads.<br>
<br>
It seems that many have been automatically imported and have<br>
highway=residential, which is just plain wrong.<br>
<br>
For roads that appear metalled (paved) and/or access mines, quarries,<br>
communication towers etc. I label highway=service, for roads that are<br>
unpaved or sometimes seem to almost fade out I label highway=track. For<br>
roads that appear to be public access (e.g. to go to a lake) but are<br>
obviously even more minor than tertiary roads I label highway=unclassified.<br>
<br>
Is there a more consistent recommended method?<br>
<br>
The US Topo map gives forest road references so I add ref FS xxxx.<br>
<br>
TIGER seems to be at best very coarse, at worst fictional.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
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