<div dir="ltr"><div>Do you have a more authoritative source for municipal boundaries than the US Census Bureau?</div><div><br></div><div>If you don't, it'll be hard for you to convince everyone here that the US Census data is wrong.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 5:03 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us <<a href="mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org">talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div><div id="gmail-m_1243620343057932044style_15977951981627180740_BODY"><div><div><div><div id="gmail-m_1243620343057932044style_15977944370848371484_BODY_mr_css_attr"><div><div>FYI;</div><div> </div><div>for all of you who are not in country and do not understand about usa city bounders.</div><div> </div><div><a href="https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/geography/contact.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/geography/contact.html</a></div><div> </div><div>and did you read what the other guy said, this is the census data not true map data.</div><div> </div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89598349" style="color:rgb(0,91,209);text-decoration:underline;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89598349</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">.</span></div><div> </div><div><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(8,87,166);margin:10px;padding:0px 0px 0px 10px"><span><span>Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:52 AM -05:00 from James Umbanhowar <<a rel="noopener noreferrer">jumbanho@gmail.com</a>>:<br> </span></span><div><div><div id="gmail-m_1243620343057932044"><div><div><div id="gmail-m_1243620343057932044style_15977659461331440515_BODY_mr_css_attr_mr_css_attr">What link are you using for this? I downloaded the places boundary<br>information from here:<br><a href="https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/geo/shapefiles/index.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/geo/shapefiles/index.php</a><br><br>As I said, I'm happy to change, but I can't change without actual<br>information.<br><br>On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 18:43 +0300, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote:<div>> i am looking at the TIRGER web, show’s the real map online and<br>> nothing you did matches.<br>><br>> i live here and a block away from the edens spur just saying.<br>><br>> > Tuesday, August 18, 2020 10:38 AM -05:00 from James Umbanhowar <<br>> > <a>jumbanho@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> ><br>> > It would probably be best if these suggestions were added in the<br>> > changeset comments, as they don't need to be discussed on the<br>> > mailing<br>> > list.<br>> ><br>> > On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 11:36 -0400, James Umbanhowar wrote:<br>> > > I'm the person who made the changes and am happy to adjust the<br>> > map to<br>> > > better authoritative data or information. My motivation for this<br>> > was<br>> > > to fix a mangled boundary relation that didn't have consistent<br>> > outer<br>> > > and inner members. The changes came in two changesets,<br>> > > <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89220282" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89220282</a> and<br>> > > <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89516909" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89516909</a><br>> > ><br>> > > The first changeset just made the relation consistent with outer<br>> > ways<br>> > > and inner ways. I preserved all the ways that were in the<br>> > relation<br>> > > that<br>> > > lead to the inconsistency and they are still in the database with<br>> > a<br>> > > note attached to them. The second came after a changeset comment<br>> > that<br>> > > noted that the fixed relation didn't match and earlier unbroken<br>> > > relation, in particular around the Edens Spur. I then changed the<br>> > > border in this area to match the 2019 Tiger data in that area<br>> > only.<br>> > ><br>> > > James<br>> > ><br>> > > On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 02:37 +0300, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us<br>> > wrote:<br>> > > > Changeset #89220282<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > > Monday, August 17, 2020 6:34 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson <<br>> > > > > <a>miketho16@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 5:24 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us <<br>> > > > > <a>talk-us@openstreetmap.org</a>> wrote:<br>> > > > > > tiger is up to date on the web map using the current data i<br>> > > > > > just<br>> > > > > > think he picked the wrong year,<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > That relation was first created in 2009. According to the<br>> > source<br>> > > > > tag, it used 2008 Tiger data, so the original mapper probably<br>> > > > > used<br>> > > > > the best available TIGER data at the time.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > also all he got was a white line in his first try.<br>> > > > > > Way: <span><span><span>813726663</span></span></span><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > That way needs to be added to the relation, and the relation<br>> > must<br>> > > > > close.<br>> ></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div> </div></div></div></div></div><div> </div></div>
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