<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">The tag military=bunker is used not only for true bunkers, but for <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">"any kind of military installation built to withstand an attack." - quote from </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:military%3Dbunker">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:military%3Dbunker</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>- Joseph Eisenberg</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:10 PM Bill Ricker <<a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 19:55 stevea <<a href="mailto:steveaOSM@softworkers.com" target="_blank">steveaOSM@softworkers.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">. And if it was historically a bunker, OSM should strive to tag this, I'm not exactly sure of the right mix of military=bunker and historic=yes flavors that might be absolutely correct, but something like those if not exactly those. Though historic=ruins seems correct, too, so perhaps better than "yes."<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Technically this and most of what the public refers to as military bunkers aren't bunkers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> Many of the larger ones are casemated Coast Artillery gun positions and their magazines. These are protected to a degree better than a "bunker" from above, but had openings to seaward to fire which had only splinter-proof shielding, and these were not refuges for personel, so not true 'bunkers', they were fighting positions. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Devil's Slide was a protected Fire Control post for Coast Artillery, and included a radar. (One could almost classify the radar control point as a bunker, as it had no windows nor fire ports, but again it's not a refuge.)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="http://www.fortwiki.com/Devil%27s_Slide_Military_Reservation" target="_blank">http://www.fortwiki.com/Devil%27s_Slide_Military_Reservation</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am a member of the Coast Defense Study Group (<a href="http://cdsg.org" target="_blank">cdsg.org</a>) as well as OSM. We study and seek to preserve these structures and the memories of those who built and served in them. One of our members was recently authorized to inspect Devil's Slide Reservation and reported on its current condition (and history) in an illustrated article in our Coast Defense Studies Journal. In addition to no-access signage it is gated and fenced. Tourist Safety is dubiously best as most of the handrails and safety lines are gone or deficient.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(The nice thing about touring these sites with CDSG conferences - aside from knowledgeable companions - is that we negotiate "Authorized Persons Only" access, for which we sign copious liability waivers, and we equip and conduct ourselves appropriately for the expected hazards: hard hats or better, construction boots (or sometimes wellies/waders!), gloves, torches/flashlights, etc.)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">// Bill</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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