<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I agree with the way it was already mapped. Subdivisions should be mapped as areas tagged with landuse=residential, place=neighborhood, and name=* if it is named.<div><br></div><div>Looking around the area of the edit, there is a lot of stuff from my perspective that seems fishy. There are a bunch of place=hamlet nodes? I certainly don't see anything that should be tagged as a hamlet, they all look like place=neighborhood to me. Each of these nodes should be mapped onto an explicit residential area.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure why the people in the changeset comments seem to think that a subdivision != neighborhood. Per the OSM Wiki definition, </div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">A</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">neighbourhood</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">is a named, geographically localised place. It may be an area within a</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">place</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb" title="Tag:place=suburb" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">suburb</a></tt><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">or</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">place</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dquarter" title="Tag:place=quarter" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">quarter</a></tt><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">of a larger settlement (such as a large</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">place</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity" title="Tag:place=city" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">city</a></tt><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">) or an area within a smaller settlement (such as a</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">place</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dtown" title="Tag:place=town" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">town</a></tt><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">or a</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" class="gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place" title="Key:place" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">place</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dvillage" title="Tag:place=village" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none">village</a></tt><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">).</span></div><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div>A subdivision just means a residential area with one developer. This means all the houses will be in the same architectural style, same age, and can be located using the subdivision name. This is the textbook definition of a neighborhood.<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:16 PM Mike N <<a href="mailto:niceman@att.net">niceman@att.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thoughts on use of place=neighborhood for subdivisions? <br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91255294" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91255294</a><br>
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Note that there are many thousands already tagged this way (5000 plus <br>
in a section of the southeast alone).<br>
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