<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Matthew Woehlke <<a href="mailto:mwoehlke.floss@gmail.com" target="_blank">mwoehlke.floss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 28/09/2020 11.42, Jack Burke wrote:<br>
> I'm willing to bet that most OSM editors who drive on either of those two<br>
> will think "this is a great freeway, just with occasional traffic signals."<br>
<br>
That's an oxymoron. Freeways are, by definition, limited access (no <br>
crossing intersections, period) and do not have (permanent¹) signs or <br>
signals to halt traffic. IMNSHO, if it has traffic lights, stop signs, <br>
or the possibility of vehicles suddenly driving *across* the way, it <br>
isn't a freeway.</blockquote><div> </div><div>True, but highway=trunk can mean either expressways (think like freeways that have some or all at-grade intersections; note that having freeway-style ramps in between junctions doesn't make it a highway=motorway), or single-carriageway freeways. In both cases, they tend to get built as an incremental case to building a full motorway, but are not yet motorways.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
That's not to say there aren't non-interstate highways that meet these <br>
definitions.<br>
<br>
But... is it a highway=trunk? *I* don't see where the wiki excludes the <br>
possibility. (It does, however, seem to me that only *actual* interstate <br>
freeways should be highway=motorway in the US.)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's not true at all...heck, not all sections of Interstates qualify for highway=motorway, there's at least a couple dozen spots where this is true, like pretty much any customs checkpoint, the transitions to where an interstate ends and it continues as another kind of highway past the last exit before a junction, </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Related: if it's I-## or I-###, shouldn't it be a highway=motorway, <br>
period? (Unless those, for some reason, are ever *not* freeways?)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No. Very much not, in fact.
Network and classification are, relative to the UK, quite disconnected. Most of the Interstate network that is bannered as Detour (more common in disaster prone areas where getting around a freeway closure isn't obvious and yet happens frequently enough to have permanently signposted detour routes for such occasions) or Business tends to be trunk at most (I can think of a couple places where a Business Interstate runs down expressway sections that used to be US 66) but usually is <i>extremely</i> not a freeway (usually boulevards and two lane roads). Get up to Alaska and mainline interstates aren't freeways and usually aren't even signposted (I'd be surprised if anything outside Fairbanks and Anchorage warrants higher than a secondary tag realistically, but the US loves to creep everything upwards, overstating connectivity). Some cities operate full blown freeways, some interstates are gravel barely-a-road.</div><div><br></div></div></div>