<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:42 AM Jack Burke <<a href="mailto:burkejf3@gmail.com">burkejf3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><br>On Monday, September 28, 2020, Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:35 PM Jack Burke <<a href="mailto:burkejf3@gmail.com" target="_blank">burkejf3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Recently, someone has taken it on himself to downgrade most (all?)<br>
highway=trunk roads in the eastern U.S. to just primary. The odd<br>
thing is that the very wiki page he cites as his reason fully supports<br>
keeping them as trunk. Many of them I'm personally familiar with, and<br>
even absent the wiki's definition, they actually make more sense as<br>
trunk from a driving perspective.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>The wiki's pretty inconsistent but the generally accepted standard is "it'd be a motorway if it didn't have intersections" or "it'd be a motorway if it was dual carriageway". I think some context would help.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How about a pair of highways that "would be motorways if they didn't have intersections" for context?</div><div><br></div><div>Georgia 400 is a grade-separated, divided, high-speed freeway from its southern endpoint at I 85, all the way to where it meets GA 369 near Coal Mountain, 37 miles later. From there, it's an at-grade, divided, high-speed (mostly 65mph, with short sections of 55mph in denser areas) highway with extremely long straight sections and other sections with high-speed curves, until it ends at GA 60 just outside Dahlonega, 16 miles past Coal Mountain. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah, not looking very hard at this so don't know if I missed any at-grade intersections looking at Maxar/Mapbox. I'd call that a motorway pretty solidly from I 85 to GA 306 and a trunk north of that to GA 60. Looks like it turns into GA 115 at GA 60, didn't trace that further but I'd call GA 60 a secondary.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>GA 515 begins life where I 575 ends, at Ball Ground. From there, it is a grade-separated, divided, high-speed (mostly 65mph, with a few sections of 55mph, and a couple of 45mph when it passes through Ellijay and Blue Ridge) freeway that travels north to Blue Ridge, almost at the Tennessee border, where it arcs eastward and continues to Blairsville. That's 63 miles of divided high-speed goodness. There it finally becomes an undivided highway that continues on to Young Harris, "ending" a few miles past there. GA 515 was upgraded to its dual-carriageway status about 30 years ago as part of the Appalachian development highway program. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Looking at the same imagery as above, yeah, I'd call I 575 a trunk north of Howell Bridge Road and GA 515 a trunk from I 575 until the south end of Blue Ridge, where the single carriageway through town is primary (it stops being an expressway and becomes a boulevard for a bit), and then picks back up as trunk on the north end of town before going primary again at Blairsville.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>All of these, and others, were highway=trunk until floridaeditor decided to downgrade them (and challenge anyone to change them back)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So far it seems like floridaeditor is the exact opposite of NE2 (who smashed everything in network=US:US to highway=trunk even if it's not an expressway or super-two freeway, something we're <i>still</i> cleaning up particularly in the midwest and Texas). Given NE2 was also in Flordia, I wouldn't rule out it's the same person.</div></div></div>