<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 7:16 PM Ray Kiddy <<a href="mailto:ray@ganymede.org">ray@ganymede.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>It appears that you are telling me how to select the objects
which are part of the relation.</p></div></blockquote><div>Sorry about that, the last step should be: <br></div><div>In the "tags" dialog on the right of the JOSM screen it
will list the way as a member of the relation, right click the
relation and from the resulting menu, click "Select Relation"<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>The east and north edge of the block shown below in red is not
part of the relation, but should be.</p></div></blockquote><div>In OSM the relation for Blythe only has one member that is a way. The other member is a node, which oddly, is some distance away.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p> I know that that red block is
object # 383948. But does this show me where it is in
openstreetmap's data? I am not seeing any name associated with
that object in the TIGEER data, nor am I seeing any tiger tags
associated with any of the lines near that area in the
openstreetmap data. So, how can I connect the two?</p></div></blockquote><div>I presume that "object # 383948" is from the TIGER data? I don't think you can count on any external unique identifiers being preserved in OSM. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>much thanx - ray<br>
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<div>On 11/8/20 4:07 PM, Mike Thompson
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<div>JOSM</div>
<div><Download Button></div>
<div>"Areas around Places" Tab</div>
<div>"Blythe, CA"</div>
<div>Select "boundary"</div>
<div>"Download" <br>
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<div>Select any part of the boundary on the map (in this case it
is a relation with only one member)</div>
<div>In the "tags" dialog on the right of the JOSM screen it
will list the way as a member of the relation, click the
relation and it will be selected.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:47 PM
Ray Kiddy <<a href="mailto:ray@ganymede.org" target="_blank">ray@ganymede.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hello -</p>
<p>Can anyone explain the best way for me to do something
here? I am trying to identify the city boundaries of a
city in California. Right now, there is a relation for the
city of Blythe which covers a very small area to the west
of the city. And then there is a node in the center of the
city. I how (mostly) how to use both JOSM (not as an
expert) and iD. But there is obviously something here that
I do not understand.</p>
<p>Blythe is on the border of California and Arizona on the
interstate between LA and Phoenix.<br>
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<p>I have downloaded the 2019 TIGER data for California (<a href="https://www2.census.gov/geo/tiger/TGRGDB19/tlgdb_2019_a_06_ca.gdb.zip" target="_blank">https://www2.census.gov/geo/tiger/TGRGDB19/tlgdb_2019_a_06_ca.gdb.zip</a>).
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<p>I can load the data in QGIS, select "Incorporated Places"
and I see this:<br>
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<p><img src="cid:175adc6f546e61778e61" alt=""></p>
<p>If not in email, see:
<a href="https://opencalaccess.org/misc/Screen%20Shot%202020-11-08%20at%203.26.32%20PM.png" target="_blank">https://opencalaccess.org/misc/Screen%20Shot%202020-11-08%20at%203.26.32%20PM.png</a><br>
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<p>There it is. Blythe, CA.</p>
<p>Then I can zoom in and see a little bit of the edge on
the southern city of the city.</p>
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<p><img src="cid:175adc6f547cef272c12" alt=""></p>
<p>If not in email,
see:<a href="https://opencalaccess.org/misc/Screen%20Shot%202020-11-08%20at%203.30.13%20PM.png" target="_blank">https://opencalaccess.org/misc/Screen%20Shot%202020-11-08%20at%203.30.13%20PM.png</a></p>
<p>So, we are looking at object # 383948. The north and east
edges of this block makes up part of the city boundary.</p>
<p>Now, how do I find out what the features on the north and
east side of the block are called? How do I find this in
the map using either JOSM or iD? I was hoping that I could
search for the tiger object with this id but I cannot seem
to. Is there are way to find it that I do not see?</p>
<p>When the TIGER data was in the form of text files (about
10 years ago), a line in the TIGER data set would show its
name. But it does not contain this information in the GDB
files? Is there somewhere else one can get this?</p>
<p>What am I missing here?</p>
<p>If I can find the feature in JOSM, then I can add it to
the relation. Shouldn't TIGER lines be somewhere in the
map here, findable in JOSM? How can I search for them?<br>
</p>
<p>Any suggestions would be appreciated.</p>
<p>thanx - ray</p>
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