<div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-im"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 11:18 PM Evin Fairchild <<a href="mailto:evindfair@gmail.com" target="_blank">evindfair@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>In
that previous email chain, I proposed using the National Highway System
to denote which roads should be trunk. According to the FHWA's website,
"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">The
National Highway System (NHS) includes the Interstate Highway System as
well as other roads important to the nation's economy, defense, and
mobility. The NHS was developed by the Department of Transportation
(DOT) in cooperation with the states, local officials, and metropolitan
planning organizations (MPOs).</font></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px">"</span> I
would encourage everyone to check out the maps of NHS routes to see if
they make sense for your state. [4] One comment I must make about this
network is that it includes urban principal arterials as a part of this
network. I would not make any of those be trunk, since that would mean
that there would be way too many trunk roads in an urban area.
Personally, I don't think roads that are part of the NHS should be
tagged as trunk unless they're part of a state or US highway.</div><div><br></div><div>Other
people have suggested just tagging all US routes as trunk, but I don't
necessarily agree with that because some US routes aren't as important
as others, particularly when they parallel an Interstate. Also there
might be some important state routes that could be worthy of being
tagged as trunk, particularly if they have sections that are four lanes
and divided, or connect small/medium cities (between 100-500K metro
population) to each other. However, if some people feel that the NHS is
a bit overkill for use as a standard for tagging roads as trunk, then
I'm okay with just tagging US routes as trunk.</div></div></blockquote><div> </div></div></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">I've taken a long look at the<span> </span></span><a href="https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">NHS system maps</a><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>for my rural region around Vermont (</span><a href="https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/vermont/vt_vermont.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">VT</a><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">,<span> </span></span><a href="https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/vermont/burlington_vt.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Burlington metro</a><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">,<span> </span></span><a href="https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/new_hampshire/nh_newhampshire.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">NH</a><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">, <a href="https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/new_york/ny_newyork.pdf" target="_blank">NY</a>)
as Evin suggests and found that it really does a good job at
highlighting the most important regional connectors in a way that is
much less "busy" than <i>all</i> US highways plus major state highways.</span><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">
As an example, US-7 is one of the major highways through the region,
but it drops out of the NHS just north of where it connects to I-89
(actually I-189) as the interstate takes over the regional-connector
function from there north. While not necessarily something that must be
hewed-to exactly, the NHS classification<span> </span></span><i style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">does</i><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>seem like a very useful guide as to which roadways really are the most important routes in a region that might be worthy of a<span> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><code style="box-sizing:inherit;padding:2px 3px 1px;border-radius:3px;line-height:1.50001;font-variant-ligatures:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-break:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">trunk</code></span><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>designation declaring them the most important non-motorway roads.</span><span style="box-sizing:inherit;display:block;height:8px;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></span><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">I was pleased to see that the NHS includes VT-103 and VT-9 -- state roads that<span> </span></span><i style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">are</i><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span> </span>the major regional connectors that are functionally and physically equivalent to US-4 and US-2 in their construction.</span><span style="box-sizing:inherit;display:block;height:8px;color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"></span><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">I also like how the NHS doesn’t include <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/44.7531/-73.2726" target="_blank">US-2 where it winds through the Champlain islands</a>,
but does include the portion that connects the bridge to NY via VT-78
and US-7. It’s not a choice I would have thought of myself, but it makes
a lot of sense from a regional-connectivity standpoint. I also
appreciate how the NHS includes a little segment of<span> </span></span><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/43.4042/-72.3933" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">VT-131 and VT-12 near Clairmont, NH</a><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><span></span>.
These state routes aren’t as important for most of their length, but in
this spot they serve as regional connectors in conjunction with I-91
and NH-12. </span></font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">What the NHS maps highlight to me is that importance and connectivity do <b>not</b>
always match the highway sign. This has also been my experience as a
road user. Signed US routes may wind out of the way and have segments
that aren't so important and State routes may have portions that are
critical infrastructure, but never got included in the federal system
for some variety of historic reasons. </span></font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">With respect to predominantly rural regions, I would be very happy if <span style="font-family:monospace">highway=trunk</span>
was used for the segments of roads listed in NHS and primary/secondary
for US & State routes not in NHS. I'd also be happy with mapper
discretion to include/exclude a few edge cases not reflected in NHS, but
NHS seems like a very good baseline for regional connectivity
importance. <br></span></font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br></span></font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:common-ligatures;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Lastly,
using high connectivity-importance for trunk on down doesn't preclude
renderers from giving a visual indication of expressway-grade physical
condition. If we can get the <span style="font-family:monospace">highway=*</span>
hierarchy actually meaning importance, then a later feature-request on
current and future renderers could be to give more prominence to ways
tagged with <span style="font-family:monospace">expressway=yes</span>.
For example, just giving the casing an extra pixel of weight may be
sufficient to highlight expressways, regardless of their
connectivity-importance.</span></font></span></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 11:18 PM Evin Fairchild <<a href="mailto:evindfair@gmail.com">evindfair@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>So there was a previous thread on this mailing list earlier today that started out as just a discussion on some changes that were made to some highway classifications in part of Colorado, and then morphed into a discussion regarding trunk road tagging in the US. Since we ended up going off on a tangent, I'm starting a new email thread for this discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, it seems like many of us who replied to that email chain (myself included) don't agree with the current tagging convention in this country of tagging only divided highways (aka "expressways") as trunk. Not only does this lead to routes frequently switching from trunk to primary when a road becomes divided or undivided, (resulting in a particular route looking all broken up at low zooms that show trunk roads but not primary roads) but it also goes against what it says on the wiki: "<span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">Only</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6"><a style="text-decoration:inherit;color:inherit;background:rgba(0,0,0,0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-weight:bold">highway</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway" title="Tag:highway=motorway" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background:rgba(0,0,0,0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%" target="_blank">motorway</a></tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">and</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;direction:ltr;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6"><a style="text-decoration:inherit;color:inherit;background:rgba(0,0,0,0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-weight:bold">highway</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link" title="Tag:highway=motorway link" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173);background:rgba(0,0,0,0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%" target="_blank">motorway_link</a></tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">indicate quality. Other road types, from</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">trunk</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">to</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">tertiary</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">to</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">residential</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">,</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">service</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">,</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">path</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">,</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">footway</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">,</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">cycleway</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">or</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-size:1em;font-family:monospace,monospace;background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;line-height:1.6">track</tt><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, do not imply anything about road quality, only</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Highway_key_voting_importance" title="Proposed features/Highway key voting importance" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;background:rgba(0,0,0,0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173)" target="_blank">importance</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">and</span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath" title="Tag:highway=path" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;background:rgba(0,0,0,0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(6,69,173)" target="_blank">intended main use</a><span style="color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">."</span> [1]</div><div><br></div><div>Given what is stated on the wiki, it seems that our way of tagging trunk roads goes against the consensus of the wider OSM community regarding importance being the way to tag roads. (per this discussion on the wiki: [2]) Also it was pointed out that there is a expressway=yes tag that should be used to denote divided highways/expressways.[3]</div><div><br></div><div>In that previous email chain, I proposed using the National Highway System to denote which roads should be trunk. According to the FHWA's website, "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">The National Highway System (NHS) includes the Interstate Highway System as well as other roads important to the nation's economy, defense, and mobility. The NHS was developed by the Department of Transportation (DOT) in cooperation with the states, local officials, and metropolitan planning organizations (MPOs).</font></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px">"</span> I would encourage everyone to check out the maps of NHS routes to see if they make sense for your state. [4] One comment I must make about this network is that it includes urban principal arterials as a part of this network. I would not make any of those be trunk, since that would mean that there would be way too many trunk roads in an urban area. Personally, I don't think roads that are part of the NHS should be tagged as trunk unless they're part of a state or US highway.</div><div><br></div><div>Other people have suggested just tagging all US routes as trunk, but I don't necessarily agree with that because some US routes aren't as important as others, particularly when they parallel an Interstate. Also there might be some important state routes that could be worthy of being tagged as trunk, particularly if they have sections that are four lanes and divided, or connect small/medium cities (between 100-500K metro population) to each other. However, if some people feel that the NHS is a bit overkill for use as a standard for tagging roads as trunk, then I'm okay with just tagging US routes as trunk.</div><div><br></div><div>Whether or not we go with the NHS or just the US highway network for determining which roads are tagged as trunk, I'm personally okay with allowing any divided highway/expressway to be tagged as trunk, regardless of whether or not it's a US highway or part of the NHS. I understand that there are some who are pretty dead set on having trunk roads be divided highways/expressways.</div><div><br></div><div>I think it was clear from the previous email chain that there was a feeling that some people aren't happy with the way we currently tag trunk roads in the US. I really would like to come to an agreement on a better way to tag trunks here in the US, so we don't keep having these discussions over and over and over again. What do you all think about this? Should we use the NHS to determine which roads should be trunk, or should it just be US highways? Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this. Also, I wasn't sure if I should send this out to the tagging mailing list as well (I'm not on that list right now), but if someone thinks that their input would be valuable, feel free to add them to this email chain.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, Evin Fairchild (aka compdude)</div><div><br></div><div>[1]: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway#Assumptions" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway#Assumptions</a></div><div>[2]: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Highway_key_voting_importance" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Highway_key_voting_importance</a></div><div>[2]: <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:expressway" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:expressway</a></div><div>[3]: <a href="https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/" target="_blank">https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/nhs_maps/</a></div></div>
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