<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Only the locals in Southern California. Northern Californians would be quite upset to have "The 5" codified in OSM =)<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">--<br>Brian</font></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 5:47 PM Zeke Farwell <<a href="mailto:ezekielf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ezekielf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'm sure loc_name="The 5" probably would be appropriate on route relation as that is what the locals call it 😉. But that's beside the point. Vermont Route 15 (and many other Vermont state highways) is literally signed with that name on street name signs. It's the real name, not just a colloquialism. <br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_kw6yjtpd0" alt="Screen Shot 2021-11-19 at 5.30.39 PM.png" width="561" height="437"></div><br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 5:27 PM Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:08 PM Zeke Farwell <<a href="mailto:ezekielf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ezekielf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 4:49 PM Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Zeke Farwell <<a href="mailto:ezekielf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ezekielf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 3:52 PM Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>I'm pretty sure noname=yes with official_name=* set is automatically a tagging error...that would be the <i>de facto</i> name.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is why a name like "Route XX" is perfectly valid when that's what people call it and how it's signed. Two examples near me:<br><br></div><div><b>Vermont Route 15</b><br><ul><li>Name: Vermont Route 15</li><li>Alt Names: Route 15, VT Route 15<br></li><li>Short Name: VT-15<br></li><li>Official/Memorial Name: Grand Army of the Republic Highway</li><li>Route Number: 15<br></li></ul>No one calls it Grand Army of the Republic Highway and signs with that name appear only rarely. Addresses never use that name. The de facto name where there is no local street name is Vermont Route 15.<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Interstate 89<br></b><ul><li>Name:<b> </b>Interstate 89</li><li>Short Name: I-89</li><li>Official/Memorial Name: Vietnam Veterans Memorial Highway</li><li>Route Number: 89</li></ul><div>No one calls it Vietnam Veterans Memorial Highway and if there are any signs with that name I've never seen them (I've looked). The de facto name is Interstate 89. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In both of these cases, the official name should be the name tag, and not duplicating the ref tag or route relation. <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>The common names are Vermont Route 15 and Interstate 89, so that's what makes most sense to have in the name tag. Official names that barely exist in the real world belong in official_name or some other alternative name tag. </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>By that same rationale then we should just strip the Golden State Freeway name off I 5 and set it to name="The 5" </div></div></div>
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