<div dir="ltr">The bare minimum that's required for highway shields is for a route relation which has a network+ref combination that can be unambiguously associated with a particular highway shield. What's preferable is if each network value corresponds to a single shield design, for example, US:PA corresponds to a white keystone with a black outline. Since the shield generation code is in javascript, it's possible to code any special case of course, but in general we've found that the 1:1 relationship between shield blank and network value seems to hold with only a handful of exceptions. So far these are the PA turnpike segments that have no ref, and two Georgia state routes that each have a different color shield because they're Appalachian corridor routes.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM Eric Patrick <<a href="mailto:txemt1@gmail.com">txemt1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">For those states who use a different shield for toll roads vs free roads, is that something that can be looked at as well? Texas colors the shields in red, white, blue for those roads that are toll, while all others are black and white. There are a few exceptions like the Sam Houston Tollway around Houston. You can also include the Florida Turnpike in this as well.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 5:20 PM Elliott Plack <<a href="mailto:elliott.plack@gmail.com" target="_blank">elliott.plack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Paul, great point. Taking a look at <a href="https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-apple-maps-highway-shield-icons" target="_blank">how Apple Maps handles their state shields</a>, they appear to use Helvetica in place of Highway Gothic, or one of the open variants. At that scale it is hard to tell other than at a side by side comparison level. I think Helvetica would probably be fine for this purpose if it matches the 'style' of US-type shields at a 12pt scale (ish).<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-apple-maps-highway-shield-icons" target="_blank">Google Maps vs. Apple Maps: U.S. State Highway Shield Icons (justinobeirne.com)</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the comment!</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">- Elliott</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 4:55 PM Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 3:06 PM Elliott Plack <<a href="mailto:elliott.plack@gmail.com" target="_blank">elliott.plack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Great work Brian and Collaborators! I too would love to see those shields use the FHWA standard
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Gothic" target="_blank">Highway Gothic - Wikipedia</a> fonts where applicable. They should be public domain as works of the US Federal Government.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure it'll work in a lot of cases...if only because some shields interior size is pretty small, and Highway Gothic is a pretty chunky sign font really not designed to scale down to small sizes on screens. Clearview does slightly better at small on-screen sizes but is also a chunky sign font that doesn't work great as a screen font. I think the current version has a pretty acceptable compromise in terms of appearance while still being a font that's actually legible when small.</div><div><br></div><div>There's very few sign fonts that also work as screen fonts; they're rather opposite goals. Helvetica's the only one that comes to mind.</div></div></div>
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