<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 1:27 PM Bob Gambrel <<a href="mailto:rjgambrel@gmail.com">rjgambrel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Several points were made above and will try to address them here.<div><br></div><div>1) Paul says: "Pretty sure there wasn't more input because everyone uses email, but not that many bother with Slack." Evin says: " I find it to be a better communication platform for discussing OSM related issues than this archaic mailing list." Just an opinion: I too, find Slack to be a very useful and capable mechanism. I also read what is in talk-us but rarely post. While I have used email all my life and find it useful for some things, I find Slack very good for capturing, saving, and sharing thoughts. I do believe that one's "favorite communication mechanism" is very personal and there are many, so I am not trashing one or another. And I am not here to defend Slack, as there are very strong opinions about it both ways. Regarding the bigger issue: should we be trying to use other channels to communicate? Yes. It was suggested (in Slack) that I reach out through Talk-us to gather more opinions. That is why I did the post, and it is nice to be picking up those opinions. To-date I have also used OSM to attempt to reach out (messages and changeset comments). I plan to try additional reach-out in the next day or so.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I said this also because literally everyone uses email. I'd actually surprise me if you didn't need email to sign up for Slack.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>2) Paul says: "Motorway islands? You mean a grade-seperated exit on an expressway?" I did not define motorway islands. I am just using common lingo that I have seen often, especially in the "#highway-classification" channel and in the US wiki. It is reasonably well defined in the US reclassification page if you have not looked there. The Minnesota page points to that page. I do not especially mean a "grade-seperated exit on an expressway" The term expressway is also defined on the US page and Minnesota adopts that usage. I am talking about a motorway segment (highway=motorway) as defined by the OSM wiki, that is relatively short (a few interchanges), that meets all the requirements of a motorway, and that connects on both sides to something that is not a motorway. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OK, thank you for clearing that up.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>4) I really don't know what you (Paul) mean by a troll tag. Not in my lingo. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Something a data consumer has to parse extra data for in order to clear up an ambiguous tag.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>5) Evin says: "As for motorway islands, I don't see anything wrong with these as long as there's not just one interchange sandwiched between at grade interesctions. I think everybody can agree that it's bad tagging to tag a road as motorway when there's only one interchange. I change these back to trunk whenever I come across them without hesitation." We in Minnesota did not agree that it's bad tagging. I will share this opinion on the channel and see what folks think.</div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>8) Evin says: "it's certainly possible for a freeway to end at an at grade intersection. That's the best place to end a motorway; anything else would just seem arbitrary." Again, I don't use the term freeway so won't weigh in. There seems to be a lot of consensus that an at grade intersection is a good place to end a motorway. Minnesota adopts that position. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>Basically freeways (motorways) are a subset of expressway. Expressways can have ramps. They can have at grade intersections. Freeways don't have at-grade intersections. If a segment ends with an at-grade junction, it's still an expressway, but the motorway ended with the previous junction.<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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