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<p><span lang="EN-US">Hello everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Let us know if you have any more feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">If there are no more suggestions from your side, we will happily start the test run in the state of Louisiana as originally planned.
<span class="inline-comment-marker">After this, you’ll be able to take a look at all the changesets and see the outcome of our automated action. We will also keep you updated on the progress of our actions in this thread.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">We are ready to start on Thursday 2/24/2022. Does this timing work for you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Looking forward to hearing from you.<br>
</span>Marjan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Eric Ladner <eric.ladner@gmail.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 17, 2022 5:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric Patrick <txemt1@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> TomTom OSM <OSM@tomtom.com>; Minh Nguyen <minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>; talk-us@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Talk-us] [bot] Proposal to fix issue with duplicated inner polygons in the United States<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's a daunting task to update thousands of miles of coastline, bays, rivers, etc., after a weather event, esp. when the satellite imagery lags by months or years.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Probably a "best-effort" thing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:17 PM Eric Patrick <<a href="mailto:txemt1@gmail.com">txemt1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Will these be updated after every hurricane comes through and changes the coastline?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 2:24 PM Eric Ladner <<a href="mailto:eric.ladner@gmail.com" target="_blank">eric.ladner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Having experience with editing some of the Lousiana coastal areas, it's several failed, incomplete, and possibly overlapping NHD imports with a mess of invalid multi-polygons, unclosed features, and any other error you can think of.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would recommend against turning the bot loose on that geometry until simpler test cases are attempted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 5:20 AM TomTom OSM <<a href="mailto:OSM@tomtom.com" target="_blank">OSM@tomtom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Minh,<br>
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Thank you for your kind words, and valuable feedback!<br>
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I passed your suggestions to my team. They will take a closer look at them, and I'll get back with more details in a while.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
Marjan<br>
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From: Minh Nguyen <<a href="mailto:minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us" target="_blank">minh@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us</a>>
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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 6:58 PM<br>
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [bot] Proposal to fix issue with duplicated inner polygons in the United States<br>
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Vào lúc 04:25 2022-02-08, TomTom OSM đã viết:<br>
> We propose to do a test run by updating invalid polygons in the <br>
> Louisiana state, where 5,541 cases are logged by the Osmose rule. Per <br>
> the Automated Edits code of conduct, we will wait for your feedback <br>
> before we begin.<br>
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Hi Marjan, at a glance, it looks like many of the issues involve multipolygons imported from NHD, since Louisiana has a very complex coastline and system of bayous. [1][2] I think many of us would welcome help cleaning up old NHD imports, particularly regarding
topology issues.<br>
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If you later move on to other states, you may need to pay additional attention to occurrences of this warning that don't only involve natural multipolygons. For example, it's possible that a natural feature might be coincident to an enclave of a boundary relation.
I'm unsure if mappers would prefer the boundary relation to be conflated with the natural feature or kept separate from it.<br>
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