<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 5:06 PM Kevin Kenny <<a href="mailto:kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com">kevin.b.kenny@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 5:17 PM Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">We should have some serious discussion about killing the dinosaur and letting ref=* refer to whatever that way is referred to as instead of using it to describe whatever route it's a member of. This exact situation is one of the motivating factors for introducing relations as a primitive in the first place, and it's been, what, 15 years since that happened? Anything that's not rendering relations now is unmaintained and not going to do so. </div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div>There's an obvious subtext there. "OSM-Carto is unmaintained." I don't think we're (yet?) in a position to ignore it, though. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sorry, that wasn't meant to be construed as that. Carto is maintained and I would hope Americana has improvements that Carto could find useful as well. Other projects that haven't started using relations yet for route rendering are unlikely to do so due to lack of maintainers.</div><div> </div></div></div>