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    <p>Yup, that's what I was thinking as well of using; I just wanted
      to check if there's a solid convention/reasoning of having
      HOV/express lanes that didn't have a physical barrier be mapped as
      separate ways.</p>
    <p>Thanks!<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/24/23 06:58, Tod Fitch wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:4F39812E-40E6-4D26-99EB-8CA47C76801E@fitchfamily.org">I
      use the hov:lanes style tagging where there is no physical
      barrier. See the lanes section [1] on the same wiki page that you
      linked.
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      <div class="">[1] <a
          href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hov#hov:lanes=*"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hov#hov:lanes=*</a><br
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            <div class="">On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Saikrishna Arcot
              <<a href="mailto:saiarcot895@gmail.com"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">saiarcot895@gmail.com</a>>
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                <p class="">Hi,</p>
                <p class="">I see that currently, for <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1007590306#map=16/47.7016/-122.1782"
                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">one part of the
                    I-405 express lane</a> in Kirkland, WA, the express
                  lanes are mapped as a separate way, even though
                  there's no physical separation from the regular travel
                  lanes except for a double solid white line. I think
                  the accepted practice is that if there's no physical
                  separation, then the lanes/road should be one single
                  way, and not split out; however, the <a
                    href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hov"
                    class="" moz-do-not-send="true">HOV wiki page</a>
                  says that if entry/exit is permitted only at certain
                  points, then it's recommended to map it as a separate
                  way. For these express lanes, entry/exit is not
                  permitted across the double solid white line, and only
                  in the dashed line areas, but it's not a single point;
                  it can be a quarter-mile long.</p>
                <p class="">In this case, should the express lanes on
                  this road be fully separated out into its own ways, or
                  should this be part of the main road?<br class="">
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Saikrishna Arcot</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Saikrishna Arcot</pre>
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