[OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"
liste at letuffe.org
Tue Nov 25 18:15:33 GMT 2008
> Who knows what you can or can't inline skate on? Who knows what makes
> a sports car a sports car? What's the difference between a trekking
> bike and a city bike? What's the worst terrain a tractor can handle?
> I've never even seen a rickshaw and how many people have ridden in a
You raised very good questions, too bad we haven't seen those on the wiki. But
nothing is ever finished, we could make a better description, ask for people
that don't known not to tag.
I personnaly have never tagged anything smoother than "bad" because I don't
use racing bikes.
This proposal, as for sac_scale, as for mtb, as for almost anything doesn't
ask people to tag things they don't know.
It is just making assumption, that a rickshaw (but seriously who cares ?) is
able to go where a passenger car can. If at any time, a rickshaw specialist
raise a comment that rickshaw can pass where passenger cars can't, then I'll
move it from categorie (or at least will propose to)
> It's impossible for me to use the tag because it requires quite
> intricate knowledge of several different forms of transport of which I
> have no experience.
Don't you use at least one type of weeled transport ? then just tag for it and
If you tag a road as "very_bad" because you did not manage to go over it with
you passenger car. Then that's allready a good information, maybe I will come
back later with my car and move it back to "bad", and so what ?
or maybe will I move it to very_horrible, because my tractor didn't even
manage to do it.
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> I might be wrong here but it looks like the whole tag originated to
> document if a road can be used easily by a racing bike.
No it didn't, it was added later because we thought it was better to cover
from smooth as glass to rought as impassable instead of just two tags
The origin comes from my need in the mountain to help drivers to know when
there will be an high risk for them to hit the ground and damage their car.
And no keys was able to answer that.
> If people who
> have never ridden a racing bike use the tag how good is that data
> going to be? IMO the effort to get it on map features means the tag
> now fails to solve the original problem.
They will create a racing_bike scale, as we are creating an mtb scale
> Is trying to get specialised tags through a majority vote ever going
> to work? Would it not have been better just to come up with a tag,
> document it on the wiki and start using it?
I don't think so. If we do, we will have tags like tracktype that people want
to use because they are rendered and because there is nothing else.
In a real life governement, you don't just use a law to see if it fits and see
if it doesn't have too much side effects. You think of it, discuss of it,
vote on it, make some tries with it, then remove or validate it.
Sylvain Letuffe liste at letuffe.org
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