[OSM-talk] Cloudmade: "We are the Wikipedia of maps"
frederik at remote.org
Wed Mar 11 02:16:40 GMT 2009
Lars Aronsson wrote:
> If you asked the same journalist to interview you about Geofabrik,
> that would have a much better effect for the public understanding
> of OpenStreetMap's role than your current rants.
It has been pointed out that Steve, apart from being a CM manager, is
also the founder of the project and thus has to juggle various roles.
Please then accept that besides running Geofabrik, I, too, am an active
member of the OSM community and entitled to voice my opinion in this
capacity. I think it is only normal for me to feel offended if an
article makes it sound like the whole project was more or less the
business success of some US company rather than the community effort it
is and which I am a part of.
I'm prepared to accept that it was neither Steve's intention nor his
wrongdoing that this article was published in the manner it was. But I
can assure you that if, as a Geofabrik manager, I read an article that
suggests that "Geofabrik was the Wikipedia of maps", then I would either
write a comment myself or ask someone else to write a comment to set the
record straight - if only to avoid criticism like the one I started the
thread with. And that takes us back to your question about my intention:
My intention was that such mistakes are best avoided, and if they
happen, are not shrugged off but corrected, at least as long as there is
an easy way to do it. (If such a mis-representation happened in a
written journal and I would have to request correction in writing, maybe
I would not consider it worth the effort.)
>> "Coast says the goal is to give away the mapping data for free
>> and charge for services."
> This indeed seems to be Steve's goal. He uses OpenStreetMap for
> the first part and Cloudmade for the second. If the journalist had
> only changed from Cloudmade to Steve's name in the second
> sentence, the article would have been much better: Steve Coast
> hopes to do the same (that Wikipedia has done) for maps.
Well I don't know about Sweden but where I live the project has
progressed far beyond the point where you would say that "with
OpenStreetMap, Steve Coast intends to <whatever>". You could have used
such words three years ago.
Frederik Ramm ## eMail frederik at remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
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