[OSM-talk] Request for Romano-British features
iknowjoseph at gmail.com
Mon Jan 2 11:58:14 GMT 2012
>the main thing that is missing from it is a list of 'cultures' or 'civilizations' that we can all use.
In the UK at least there's a defined and well used list of periods
provided by the Archaeology Data Service:
In short, is something like:
Palaeolithic 500 000 - 10 000 BC
Mesolithic 10,000 - 4,000 BC
Neolithic 4000 - 2200 BC
Bronze Age 2500 - 700 BC
Iron Age 800 BC - 43 AD
Roman 43 - 410 AD
Early Medieval 410 - 1066 AD
Medieval 1066 - 1540 AD
Post Medieval 1540 - 1901 AD
Modern 1901 - present
For the data to be useful for a wider community than OSM, I would
strongly suggest following these dates and terms. It's what i use on
my grey literature site, for example:
Please be aware that "'cultures' or 'civilizations'" don't really work
in British archaeology (or anywhere in Europe) any more - we've given
up on Culture Historical interpretations of the past. I guess it's
only really a matter of semantics, but dealing with periods rather
than civilisations will make it much easier to draw in data from the
Also please note that the above list is for the UK only. On the
continent, for example, different things happened and happened at
different times. It probably wouldn't be possible to get a coherent
tagging scheme across Europe that made any sense; there's simply not a
consistent European past that could be represented in such a way.
On 2 January 2012 11:12, Graham Jones <grahamjones139 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 January 2012 09:49, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:
>> I've been using historic=roman_road but will be switching to historic=road, culture=roman as per an excellent tagging schema proposed by Francesco de Virgilio at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11/prove2 , as this will enable a pan-European approach.
> I hadn't seen that proposal - I agree it would be good to have a world-wide scheme, but I am concerned that we could potentially end up with different tagging schemes here...and I know how unpopular it would be to 'correct' them electronically in the future....
> As far as I can tell there is:
> The proposed culture= (no wiki page for it yet other than http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11/prove2
> historic:civilization= - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:historic:civilization
> I started a wiki page to record how British historical sites are tagged (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Historic_Britain) - It would be good to update that with the proposal - the main thing that is missing from it is a list of 'cultures' or 'civilizations' that we can all use.
> Neither culture nor historic:civilization are that well used, but there are more historic:civilization entries (see http://taginfo.osm.org).
> What I intend to do with my map is to have different layers for different cultures/civilizations so that you can see all roman features, or all cold war relics etc.
> Graham Jones
> Hartlepool, UK.
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