[OSM-talk] Things People Say
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Thu Jan 5 05:09:09 GMT 2012
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> But to be honest I'd prefer for tile-making to migrate more into the hands
> of users so they can choose whatever style they like, rather than everybody
> making (different) demands on our showcase cartography.
> This guy is clearly mistaking us for a map portal. Even if we had the money
> to buy aerial imagery it would not be our mission to serve that to the
> public; we're simply not interested. I'm a little tired of people like that
> and I hope that by drastically reducing the amount of map on our front page
> we will get rid of them. We are here to make good map data; we're not here
> to indulge those who would like a map portal with all the bells and whistles
> (and who, as someone else professed, cannot be bothered to fix data in OSM
> when there are problems).
> In my eyes, we are not aimed at "map consumers". We are, to borrow business
> terms, a producer or maybe a distributor, but we're not a retailer. Our
> product needs a bit of pretty packaging and customer service added before it
> can compete with the consumer friendliness of something like Google Maps;
> such pretty packaging and customer service can be provided by enthusiastic
> individuals, or nonprofits, or commercial entities - maybe even by other
> open projects. But I don't see this on our plate.
Well, IMHO, this is a fundamental mistake. The best way to attract
contributors is to provide a good product that they want even more of.
I have friends who would probably contribute to OSM, but first they
would need to *use* OSM, and it's not quite good enough for their
needs. Why do people contribute to Google Maps? Because they use
If the broader goal here is maximum possible uptake of free data, then
we need to do everything possible to encourage that. Having artificial
boundaries like "oh, we're just a map data project; tools and map
servers are someone else's problem" is just wrong.
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