Why not combine some sort of a tube stop collection fest with the OSM 2nd Anniversary/birthday party? If there are enough people we could split into a few groups and nail the cirlcle line (for example) in a couple of hours? The beer would taste even sweeter if we had collected some data before - kind of like going to the gym and then really really enjoying the take away pizza ;-).
<br><br>Nick<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/3/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andy Robinson</b> <<a href="mailto:Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk">Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0; margin-right: 0; margin-bottom: 0; margin-left: 0; margin-left: 0.80ex; border-left-color: #cccccc; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex">
I have contacts with both Metronet and Tube Lines. I'll ask if there is any<br>way they will give us access to their out-of-copyright data. They have a lot<br>of it.<br><br>Andy Robinson<br><a href="mailto:Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk">
Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk</a><br><br>>-----Original Message-----<br>>From: <a href="mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org">talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-">talk-</a><br>><a href="mailto:bounces@openstreetmap.org">
bounces@openstreetmap.org</a>] On Behalf Of Tom Carden<br>>Sent: 03 July 2006 14:01<br>>To: SteveC<br>>Cc: <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] London Underground stations?
<br>><br>>On 03/07/06, SteveC <<a href="mailto:steve@asklater.com">steve@asklater.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> * @ 03/07/06 01:24:57 PM <a href="mailto:noodles@earth.li">noodles@earth.li</a> wrote:<br>>> > it
<br>>> > occurred to me that OSM is an ideal method of recording tube station<br>>> > locations (and probably even a large amount of track given it's above<br>>> > ground). Is anyone working on this already?
<br>>><br>>> Yeah, and Tom'll have lots to say on this.<br>>><br>><br>>Well, not lots but some! AFAIK the things that have been subject to<br>>take-downs are things that were using modified official tube maps or
<br>>using the tube roundel trademark in some way. I'm not in favour of it<br>>and it's crappy that the underground thinks this is worth pursuing in<br>>a serious way, but it's kind of understandable.<br>><br>
>> I started collecting locations on my osm wiki user page when I found out<br>>> the wikicommons data is all derived from google maps.<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Steve">
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Steve</a><br>>><br>><br>>My own experiments were all with the wikicommons data set, and I was<br>>really disappointed to find it was traced from Google Maps.<br>
><br>>A two-pronged approach is in order:<br>>* as Steve already is, collect the data ourselves using GPS, out of<br>>copyright maps and (appropriately licensed) satellite and aerial<br>>photography. This could probably be completed in a day by a few
<br>>dedicated individuals!<br>>* lobby for a freely available official data set including station<br>>locations, travel times, connectivity, interchange times, etc. since I<br>>don't think it can hurt TfL for its customers to make their own maps.
<br>><br>>Longer term, like Richard I would like to see a geodata license which<br>>expressly permits geocoding of isolated points of interest.<br>><far-off-fantasy>If Google and others were to adopt this license it
<br>>would be a huge weight off a lot of people's minds and make the status<br>>of several large Google-Maps derived databases<br>>unambiguous</far-off-fantasy>. Here's hoping.<br>><br>>But yes, in the mean-time please start collecting it. Nick, does your
<br>>new renderer have an icon for tube stops, and a suggested node tag for<br>>tube stop POIs?<br>><br>>Tom.<br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>talk mailing list<br>><a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">
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