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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234234116-24072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Well, I agree, and I've always (well, in the few weeks that
I've been contributing) uploaded my full GPX tracks before I've done any editing
with JOSM. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234234116-24072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I just wanted to point out that it wasn't a
compulsory/required part of the process at the moment. As you say, perhaps we
should be suspicious of large data dumps minus supporting evidence as GPX
tracks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234234116-24072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>With regard to legal questions of copyright and
contaminated data, then requiring the handover of the raw data should be a
sufficient defence of due diligence to show that someone hasn't just traced the
AA road atlas or some such thing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234234116-24072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So how do we 'patrol recent edits'
then?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234234116-24072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Personally, I'd like to see what's changed recently,
particularly in areas I'm editing. For instance, who's doing the roads in North
Wales, besides me? I see someone's been doing large chunks, and I'd like to get
in touch to avoid duplicating effort...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234234116-24072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Phillip</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Etienne<BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 July 2006 13:51<BR><B>To:</B> Nick
Whitelegg<BR><B>Cc:</B> talk@openstreetmap.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSM-talk]
About my stubbornness<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>In the same way that it is considered bad form to add content to
Wikipedia without referencing your sources, it should also be considered bad
form to add information to OSM that cannot be verified.<BR><BR>In the case of
ways, uploaded tracklogs are a first class form of verification. Landsat
images are another acceptable form (although of variable quality). For
streetnames I always tag my ways with the file name of the photograph that I
took (and these are accessible on-line). <BR><BR>In addition to the obvious
copyright defence, nodes and ways that are supported by documentary evidence are
more credible to potential users of OSM than if they just mysteriously "got
there". The more supporting documentary evidence the better.
<BR><BR>Should we be starting to think about patrolling recent edits? We
should be suspicious of large amounts of new data that does not have any
supporting evidence.<BR><BR>Etienne<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/24/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Nick
Whitelegg</B> <<A href="mailto:nick@hogweed.org">nick@hogweed.org</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">On
Monday 24 Jul 2006 12:31, Barnett, Phillip wrote:<BR>> But if you use a
tool such as JOSM, it's not required that you upload<BR>> GPX tracklogs, so
they are not necessarily to be found as evidence of<BR>> bona fide
self-gathered data. <BR><BR>The recommendation though, even if you use a
standalone editor to create your<BR>nodes, segments and ways, is to upload
your gpx via the web interface
*in<BR>addition*.<BR><BR>Nick<BR><BR>_______________________________________________
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