Currently making maps with OSM is quite a skilled process. If we are to get any where near 98% coverage we need to make it easier. Currently there are maybe 50 regular contributors in the UK. To cover the UK we will need more like 500 or 5000 contributors.
<br><br>Even skilled, concientious and diligent contributors can get it wrong. The very next road to me is named Vaillant Road. For a long time that was in OSM as Valliant Road. Probably the only person who would spot that error is someone who actually lives in that street.
<br><br>The tools aren't good enough to lower the bar much at the moment, but in the longer term we need a lot more contributors and we need a way for people with very very local knowledge to easily verify and flag up errors.
<br><br>Etienne<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/28/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Barnett, Phillip</b> <<a href="mailto:Phillip.Barnett@itn.co.uk">Phillip.Barnett@itn.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Martyn has a point.<br><br>The legalities of copyright are not apparent to a casual user, hence the<br>FAQ. It's been suggested that a casual browser might want to quickly add<br>a streetname, or several, without taking the time to create an account.
<br>It's very likely, in that case, that he/she won't have taken the time to<br>read/notice that he can't just copy names out of Google Maps, or<br>whatever, in a misguided attempt to be 'helpful' - which then breaks<br>copyright.
<br><br>Secondly, OSM is difficult. I'nm trying to tidy up<br>Bloomsbury/Clerkenwell area of Central London, and am finding it heavy<br>going. There's a lot of unnamed streets, (all of them are, basically)<br>and no obvious points of reference, and not every street is mapped. I
<br>can see a user picking the wrong street to name (off by one, perhaps,<br>and then naming the next half dozen streets adjacent to it from memory,<br>and making further errors because the fourth street along the road has
<br>been missed off the map.<br><br>OSM mapping is difficult - I suggest we should be raising the bar to<br>participate, rather than lowering it, at least in the early stages.<br>Eventually, when 98% of the map is complete, it would be nice to get the
<br>last few streets cleared up by the public, but when the base map is so<br>shaky, I don't think we should let someone who's attention span doesn't<br>even let them create an account potentially corrupt the data. It's not
<br>Wikipedia.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org">talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org">talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org
</a>] On Behalf Of Martyn Welch<br>Sent: 27 July 2006 23:04<br>To: <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Re: privacy policy<br><br>On Thursday 27 July 2006 19:41, you wrote:
<br>> Martyn Welch <<a href="mailto:martyn@welchs.me.uk">martyn@welchs.me.uk</a>> writes:<br>> > I disagree. It was no more hassle than signing up to any BBS or<br>> > mailing list!<br>><br>> Don't you have to click on a link that you get in an email? Most
<br>> people now use white listing so you get a delay maybe up to an hour<br>> between your registring and when you can edit. If I was going to do<br>> just some edits that delay would probably be a reason not to do it.
<br><br>Right, so by allowing the most fickle minded people to contribute,<br>otherwise prolific and loyal contributors are left firefighting the<br>vandalism and clueless who drag stuff around and delete bits, which has<br>
just been made 100 times easier since they can just load a web-page?<br><br>Martyn<br><br>--<br><br>Martyn Welch (<a href="mailto:martyn@welchs.me.uk">martyn@welchs.me.uk</a>)<br><br>PGP Key : <a href="http://www.welchs.me.uk/martyn/pgpkey/">
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