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Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
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<pre wrap="">SteveC wrote:
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<pre wrap="">* @ 29/11/06 09:30:36 AM <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:richard@systemeD.net">richard@systemeD.net</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Quoting bvh <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bvh-osm@irule.be"><bvh-osm@irule.be></a>:
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<pre wrap="">My take on it is that we should try to tag everything that is needed
to find your way (the purpose of a map, no?) So it's perfectly
reasonable to tag football stadiums and churches because by virtue
of being easily recognizable they serve as a point of reference
out there in the field.
However, amenities="wifi", ="park_ride", ="clinic" etc don't share
that purpose. There is little value to add them to a map.
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<pre wrap="">Though I generally agree with your point, park & ride is a valuable
navigation feature for anyone driving into a city. It may
significantly alter the route you choose and determine the eventual
destination of your journey. I would ask you to reconsider your vote
against here.
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<pre wrap="">I read 'park_ride' as 'chessington world of adventures'[1]. Maybe make it a
bit more idiot-proof?
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During the Christmas period, Chessington World of Adventures is closed,
so it's car park is used to run a park and ride Christmas shopping
service for Kingston on Thames(*). Maybe this is why it is tagged that
way (if indeed it is - I haven't checked).
On the proposal, I disagree completely with the examples given, but not
the principle. I think we need a limited list of valid amenities, and we
should have something in the back end that enforces this list for this
tag (and other lists of other tags). If the list is restricted, it can
be translated, and we can make the site useful internationally.
However, wifi, park_ride, and clinic all seem like valid amenities to me.
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I've been thinking about this and following the discussion, and having
gone from no particular opinion on this to thinking that we should only
tag physical attributes. Therefore things like car parks, park and
rides, pubs, petrol stations, churches are physical things, there is no
mistaking these and even if they close they will still be there for
some time. Also because they are obvious if they change this will be
spotted quickly and the data updated. <br>
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Somethings like Wifi is much harder, whilst it does have a physical
location (of the base station) it is something that is in the air
covering an area. But in addition it is something that can vary day to
day on the whim of a business, be turned on or off with little or no
notice. It makes sense to me at least that these kind of things should
be stored elsewhere. In the same way that we would indicate the
location of a pub on the map, but we wouldn't add it's email address or
phone number, or if it serves food, or it's opening hours, then why
would we indicate if it has wireless or not?<br>
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Cheers<br>
Chris <br>
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