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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ben
Ward<BR><B>Sent:</B> 29 January 2007 16:09<BR><B>To:</B> OSM
Talk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSM-talk] Name vs name tag (case
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 29/01/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Robert
(Jamie) Munro</B> <<A
href="mailto:rjmunro@arjam.net">rjmunro@arjam.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Ben
Ward wrote:<BR>><BR>> Just a thought, but is there a great deal of point
in having<BR>> case-sensitive keys?<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">We
can write things into the and/or editors or the backend to
enforce<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">this,
or we can just ignore it and tell users to remember, and<BR>everything will
work.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>So basically it's the user's fault that he isn't aware at x time that
he should be using lowercase? I appreciate not changing the backend for
the various reasons listed above (the foreign languages one was quite
compelling) but blaming the user for not having read the entire spec (or wiki)
is a bit unfriendly. <BR> </DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">>
Can anyone think of a situation where it's more <BR>> useful than it is
confusing to have two keys with the same name, but<BR>> differing
case?<BR><BR>No. That's why you mustn't allow them. As it is now, a
key name in a<BR>different case /is/ a completely different name, therefore
there is no <BR>room for that confusion. "Name" is not the name of an object,
it's an<BR>error. Only "name" is the name of an object.<BR><BR>If things were
programmed to be case insensitive, then we could get<BR>different case names
for the same key (on different objects), and<BR>renderers could get
confused.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>This bit confused me. I thought that's what was happening
already.<BR></DIV></DIV><BR>Yes, editing tools are probably the place to do
this. Having used JOSM and the applet, though, I've always felt like I'm on my
own for tagging and must always have map features wiki page open, just to make
sure I'm not 'polluting the data'. It's clear from the number of repeat
questions on this list that there are editing conventions that need to be
enforced, or simply encouraged by the editor itself. [*] If you consider
these errors then it seems a bit mad for us to accept them into the data.
<BR><BR>Ben<BR clear=all><BR>[*] To be honest every update of JOSM I've tried
has a different permutation of tagging aids. Right now I don't have the
highway types dropdown any more, but I'm buggered if I can work out how I got it
in the first place. Consider this a plea for help :-)<BR>-- <BR><A
href="mailto:ben@crouchingbadger.com">ben@crouchingbadger.com</A> | <A
href="http://crouchingbadger.com">http://crouchingbadger.com</A><BR>51.717817,-1.225855
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