On 7/2/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Christoph Eckert</b> <<a href="mailto:ce@christeck.de">ce@christeck.de</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br><br>> This is silly. For long term sustainability the domain (and anything<br>> else needed by the project) has to be "owned" by a legal entity that<br>> is not a person. Consider the "owner gets hit by a bus" scenario.
<br><br>agreed.<br><br>[...]<br><br>> I honestly don't see why OSMF needs a website at all, but if it does<br>> it would probably be good to have a seperate one (run by the same<br>> servers, ofcourse :) ). btw,
<a href="http://Openstreetmap.nl">Openstreetmap.nl</a> was registered directly<br>> by Vrijschrift.<br><br>The basic idea is that <a href="http://openstreetmap.org">openstreetmap.org</a> is the main page of an<br>international project, not a national OSMF. What gets placed there or
<br>even not should therefore be decided by the community, not a national<br>foundation.<br><br>I'd not complain about the ads if OSMF would have a national domain like<br><a href="http://openstretmap.co.uk">openstretmap.co.uk
</a>. If we had further national foundations who run<br>something like <a href="http://openstreetmap.fr">openstreetmap.fr</a>, I'd not complain if they placed ads in<br>their maps.<br><br>Steve founded and grew this cool project under the name and domain
<br><a href="http://openstreetmap.org">openstreetmap.org</a>. It's OK if it now gets assigned to the national OSMF<br>as it is not possible to found an international foundation. But then<br>the OSMF should IMO resist the temptation to use it as their own
<br>homepage and to place ads on the map without any community<br>consideration.</blockquote><div><br>OSMF is not, per se, a national organisation. It is intended to have global scope. Unfortunately it has to be registered *somewhere* under some legal jurisdiction otherwise it would not be accountable and that would defeat its purpose.
<br><br>We did look at incorporating in a variety of different countries. I seem to recall that the Isle of Man was a strong contender at the time. In the end it came down a) the UK has suitable types of company for our needs (non-profit membership owned), b) two thirds of the elected officals live in the UK and understand how to do all the necessary paperwork for a UK company and c) cost (the Isle of Man turned out to be way too expensive).
<br><br>Personally I would like to see a federation of local chapters who can fundraise locally and help organise and coodinate mapping parties, deal with press coverage and attend local conferences etc.<br><br>I've discussed this with Steve in the past and it came up as a possibility during the Digital Pioneers proposal work with Vrijshrift becoming a federated member of OSMF.
<br><br>Given the amount of OSM activity in Germany I think it would be excellent to have a local representative organisation of some kind. Christoph, ar you volunteering to get the ball rolling?<br><br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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