<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 4 Jul 2007, at 10:22, Peter Miller wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The Mapnik site looks great, but shouldn’t it not have a more appropriate attribution and usage information associated with it? The ‘OpenStreetMap’ text is not a link and the ‘Terms if Use’ next to it are Googles rather than OSMs. Could the publisher of this site please take a look. If the publisher doesn’t read this list could someone forward it to them?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thanks,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Peter<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> <SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </O:P></SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>Hi Peter,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Fair point. I modified copyright notice to be : ©2007 OpenStreetMap contributors </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers,</DIV><DIV>Artem<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Artem Pavlenko [<A href="mailto:artem@mapnik.org">mailto:artem@mapnik.org</A>] <BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 04 July 2007 10:04<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> Frederik Ramm<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> 80n; <A href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A>; Peter Miller<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [OSM-talk] middle aged car driving golf players?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">On 4 Jul 2007, at 07:28, Frederik Ramm wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><BR> <BR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Hi,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">80n wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" type="cite"> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">What's this?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">[...]<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Has anyone set up a site with either a Google API map or an OpenLayers<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">map where you can switch between Google and OSM maps? That would make<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">comparison so much easier. Could a Google layer be added to<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">informationfreeway.org or are there technical (legal, political?) obstacles?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Would it even be possible to display two maps side by side, and whenever<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">you zoom/pan in one of them, adjust the other as well?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Bye<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Frederik<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Have a look at <A href="http://media.mapnik.org/oxford-osm.html">http://media.mapnik.org/oxford-osm.html</A>. You could setup something similar.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">HTH<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Artem<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><BR> <BR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">--<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Frederik Ramm<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>##<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>eMail <A href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</A><SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>##<SPAN class="apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>N49°00.09' E008°23.33'<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">_______________________________________________<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">talk mailing list<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><A href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">talk@openstreetmap.org</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><A href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV style="min-height: 14px"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><SPAN style="border-spacing: 0px 0px;text-align:auto;-khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; 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