<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/18/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andy Robinson</b> <<a href="mailto:Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk">Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Jeffrey Martin [mailto:<a href="mailto:dogshed@gmail.com">dogshed@gmail.com</a>] wrote:<br>>Sent: 17 August 2007 4:54 PM<br>>To: Andy Robinson<br>>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] flight paths<br>><br>><br>><br>>On 8/17/07, Andy Robinson <
<a href="mailto:Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk">Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Peter Miller wrote:<br>> >Sent: 17 August 2007 1:09 PM<br>> >To: <a href="mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org">
talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> >Subject: [OSM-talk] flight paths<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Anyone who is following the news this week will know that aviation<br>
>is<br>> >currently in the spotlight.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Are any people doing work on flight-paths? I for one would be<br>>interested to<br>> >know which airport all the planes that pass overhead are coming
<br>from<br>>and<br>> >for the airports that have planned expansion it would be good to be<br>>able to<br>> >plot the paths radiating from them so people can see if they are<br>>affected<br>
> >by the work.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I guess a specialist flight map rendering would be very helpful and<br>> >encourage data collection.<br>> >
<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I believe that GPS works on flights and can be used but that flight<br>>path<br>> >data might also be available from enthusiasts.<br>> ><br>
> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Any thoughts?<br>> ><br>><br>><br>> Right from the early days of OSM we had a few flight path gps traces
<br>> uploaded to the server and it was decided that these were a bad<br>thing<br>> because they confuse the hell out of everyone when trying to edit<br>map<br>>data!<br>> The consensus at the time was that while this information was of
<br>>interest it<br>> really wasn't part of a "streetmap" emphasis and therefore ought to<br>>be set<br>> up as a project in its own right.<br>><br>> Cheers<br>><br>> Andy
<br>><br>> Andy Robinson<br>> <a href="mailto:Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk">Andy_J_Robinson@blueyonder.co.uk</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________
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http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk</a><br>><br>><br>><br>>I might be doing something wrong but when I download with JOSM it gathers<br>>all the tracks together.<br>>If it downloaded each track as a separate layer then it would be easy to
<br>>keep the aircraft tracks separate<br>>for a future project.<br>><br>>On a side note I would like more tools in JOSM to manipulate the track<br>>data. If I could highlight the points in time order then I could see when I
<br>>went under the bridge and when I went over it for example.<br><br>No, that's correct. Via the API, all points come in blocks, normally<br>delivered in logical order but not with any timestamps or other information.
<br>You can open your own GPX files (or download the original files from OSM if<br>they were made public) if you want to keep them on separate layers. With the<br>original GPX files you can effectively do more in JOSM than with the data
<br>via the API.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Andy<br><br>Andy Robinson<br><br><br></blockquote></div>I suppose there's a reason I can't download them a separate files. I really don't want to learn<br>the API, but I would like to see the overall system set up for remote collaboration. I have a vision
<br>where other people map the data I collect in Korea. It may never happen, but I would like the<br>overall system to support it without having to email waypoint and track files to people.<br><br>When you look at the listing of tracks on the server it animates the points in little sections. Could
<br>I suppose downloading those sections as layers would require major API changes.<br><br>-Jeff<br><br>-- <br><a href="http://bowlad.com">http://bowlad.com</a>